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But my name is Zaran.

:c

I'll leave this here.

lol, more Creationtards.

pro-tip: dont bother arguing with inv3rted or zaran

It's like a hilarious sitcom watching some ordinary thread and some friend comes along and mentions something about religion/science/politics and then Inv3rted comes along and the whole thread does a 180 into a completely different topic.

If the OP has stuff for brains, I'll stuff on their thread.

 :cookieMonster:

How the hell did this turn from what we were talking about to this.
If the word bio appears at all in a topic that Inverted posted in. then there is a 90% probability that religion will come up.

Holy stuff in the time it took me to type that up there is already two new pages.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 06:54:33 PM by zackin5 »


pro-tip: dont bother arguing with inv3rted or zaran

But it's so funneh. :(

Read up on the definition of species, before you make handicapped assumptions. We are still apes. If you look at our immediate ancestors, you see very little change.

Incredible, a dog has four limbs, and so does an ape. They must have a common ancestor.

Amazing, fish have mouths, and so do cats. They must also be related.

*exclamationofsurprise*, humans have DNA in their cells, and so do apples. We must have evolved from a person-apple.

Just because there are similarities/coincidences doesn't mean the two things are related. Isn't that also Atheists' main argument against "modern-day miracles"? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

Yeah, My computer had a quad core 2.4 over-clocked to 3.0.

I say 'had' because I reverted it back to 2.4 due to heating issues.
But i just got a GTS250 BFG OC 1Gig
:D

lol, more Creationtards.

I've noticed, Inv3rted, that in most of these topics you tend to sit on your high chair and shoot down (or attempt to shoot down) any articles, evidence, or posts that are for Creationism.

Do you happen to know of any evidence that disproves Creationism? Seeing how you claim that most Creationists are ignorant to the other side of the argument, enlighten me. Post something that disproves Creationism / supports evolution.

I've noticed, Inv3rted, that in most of these topics you tend to sit on your high chair and shoot down (or attempt to shoot down) any articles, evidence, or posts that are for Creationism.

Do you happen to know of any evidence that disproves Creationism? Seeing how you claim that most Creationists are ignorant to the other side of the argument, enlighten me. Post something that disproves Creationism / supports evolution.

I did post things that support evolution. You're trying to shift the burden of proof to me, when you're the one asserting creationism.

*exclamationofsurprise*, humans have DNA in their cells, and so do apples. We must have evolved from a person-apple.

Just because there are similarities/coincidences doesn't mean the two things are related. Isn't that also Atheists' main argument against "modern-day miracles"? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

Hey guess what! Someone doesn't even know what DNA is, let alone how every living thing has some of the same genes! Also, hey look, someone who thinks that evolution means random organisms turn into other random organisms!

Oh, the strawmen! They're so easy to fall for!

*exclamationofsurprise*

Incredible, a dog has four limbs, and so does an ape. They must have a common ancestor.

Amazing, fish have mouths, and so do cats. They must also be related.

*exclamationofsurprise*, humans have DNA in their cells, and so do apples. We must have evolved from a person-apple.

Just because there are similarities/coincidences doesn't mean the two things are related. Isn't that also Atheists' main argument against "modern-day miracles"? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

How do you survive with no brain?  How did you just quote Inv3rted and go off on a completely different tangent.?  If you have ever read anything on evolution, which I can already see you haven't, you would know it doesn't quite work that way.  Read up on it on Wikipedia and then promptly slap yourself.

I've noticed, Inv3rted, that in most of these topics you tend to sit on your high chair and shoot down (or attempt to shoot down) any articles, evidence, or posts that are for Creationism.

Do you happen to know of any evidence that disproves Creationism? Seeing how you claim that most Creationists are ignorant to the other side of the argument, enlighten me. Post something that disproves Creationism / supports evolution.

Read the loving argument.  Any one of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homology_%28biology%29

Check it out.

Before anyone says "be more open minded" again, please watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI
You need to watch the entire thing before you scream in everyone's face about how it's biased, it will undoubtedly seem that way from the start.

I did post things that support evolution. You're trying to shift the burden of proof to me, when you're the one asserting creationism.

Very few as I've seen. Either PM me or post a few links to articles that support evolution as well as disprove Creationism, and I'll be happy to read them. Again, if you consider our side to be ignorant, enlighten me.

Hey guess what! Someone doesn't even know what DNA is, let alone how every living thing has some of the same genes! Also, hey look, someone who thinks that evolution means random organisms turn into other random organisms!

I was simply using comedy to make a point. My real point was the sentence below the other three, which you have, most interestingly, failed to comment on.

Just because there are similarities/coincidences doesn't mean the two things are related. Isn't that also Atheists' main argument against "modern-day miracles"? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

Read the loving argument.  Any one of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homology_%28biology%29
Check it out.

I will, thank you for obliging.

Edit: After reading a large portion of this article, I have to say this does support evolution. Most comedically, however, it supports Creationism too.

If a engineer/builder finds a design that works well, they tend to use it throughout their work. I won't pretend to be an architect, but I'll attempt to give an example. Triangular shapes have been found to make very sturdy structures. This is why many structures, such as bridges, are seen to have these geometrical shapes.

For Creationist, this is a similar case here. Bones, anatomy, and even DNA coding have certain designs that work very well. Therefore, why wouldn't it be used all throughout creation? It would be illogical not to. Therefore, homology provides evidence, no matter what side one argues for.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 07:33:19 PM by Zenthrox »

You still don't understand what DNA is. It's not a coincidence that DNA is the same in different creatures. DNA directly controls certain features / adaptations, and when it doesn't, it is junk DNA. Using DNA, you can track the history of an animal species to a common ancestor with another animal. The field of genetics, by definition, is evidence for evolutionary biology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Read this article. If you don't accept it but understand it, you have a closed mind as stated in the video posted by Dan.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 07:33:19 PM by Inv3rted »

I'm sorry? A species is defined by biologists as a reproductive group. If you dismiss everything said by scientists as atheistically biased, I think you should stop enjoying the benefits of evolutionary biology and astrophysics. Please, enjoy your life without electronics and healthcare.

And now we're equivocating again.

And really, evolutionary biology created healthcare?  Evolutionary biology has created nothing.  Actual biology has created the wondrous technologies we see today.

wat

You're handicapped. Evolution doesn't say God doesn't exist. You're putting ANOTHER strawman argument into this, and you still don't see it.

Wrong.  Any synthesis attempted between God and evolution has completely and totally failed in all regards.  There's no strawman involved, only fact.

Taking things out of context is also a bad fallacy to dance with, my intellectually challenged product of poor gene integration friend. A moon is a moon, even if it was once a piece of debris in space. My point is still valid, and yours still lacking any backing.

And...you've lost it.  If a moon is once a piece of debris in space, than that takes quite a bit of a chunk out of the concept of stellar evolution.  So, because some orbiting objects are space debris, and you consider them moons, that renders the stellar evolution concept invalid.

And besides, you think my point is void of any backing because of the supposed failure of one point?  It's laughable to see just how desperate you really are.

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It fits the factually correct model of how the solar system developed far better. His argument holds no ground. A seven degree difference is to be expected.

And yet again, you take it out of context, because the point isn't how large the inclination is, it's that there is an inclination at all.  With the details of stellar evolution in place, there should be no variance whatsoever, and you can't deny that.

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I'm sorry, but just because something is hard to imagine does not mean it's not true. Special relativity isn't exactly a walk in the park. Gravity alone accounts for the buildup of mass in the center of the universe. Angular momentum is not created by mass.

But at the same time, angular momentum is usually associated with mass as any moving object with mass in such a system is going to gain angular momentum, usually in direct relation with how much mass is involved.  This one's obvious.  You are really reaching now.

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You dismiss the entire scientific community because you assume it is a conspiracy. Are you going to be a hypocrite forever?

1.  The entire scientific community also includes people who believe in creation, of which there are quite a few.
2.  It's not a conspiracy, it's simple.  Whoever creates the definition, controls the "science" involved.  If I were to create a new "modern science", and I chose that the definition of this new science excludes the possibility of the existence of trees, then guess what?  The "entire scientific community" now no longer believes that trees exist.
3.  I'm not a hypocrite for asking you to actually read what I have to say and therefore have any validity to your argument at all.

As it stands, your point is completely invalid as you have not checked it against my point, which refutes your point.  My point is valid because I've checked it against your point, and your point does nothing to actually refute mine.  It's simple debating logic, folks, and Inverted doesn't want to understand a word of it because it means he loses.

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You didn't refute one.
Are we resorting to outright lies in spite of the obvious facts in the previous posts?  This has gone past affirmations and wishful thinking.


Ahem.  A species is a species.  You cannot have two separate types of species when only one can exist.  Humans evolved from apes.  We can tell this from science.  You cannot define an ape as anything other than an ape, nor a human as anything other than a human.

Wrong.  There is no evidence for ape-to-man evolution, and the evidence I provided in the links disprove any form of ape-to-man evolution.  The only "science" backing that up is known as pseudoscience.

Those are two different sciences, two completely different ideas.  We are not discussing how life came to be, but how it progressed over time.

Wrong again.  Two very similar sciences, with two very similar goals, with interconnected ideas.  You cannot separate the two, I'm very sorry to tell you.

Your arguments are showing a disturbing similarity.  They all include about one line of refutation.  The rest is just a bunch of insults and denial of the previous arguments.  Hell, you just posted one website to argue with Inv3rted, and it hardly applied to the context.  Then when he picked you apart, you argued that he only refuted a couple of your points.

1.  You have obviously not read the entirety of my arguments, or you have, and just want to label it to be something it isn't so you can look down upon it.  Shameful.

2.  He only posted one website himself, and, both of our websites applied very well to the context, thank you.

3.  He did not pick me apart.  He took 3 lines of text out of context, refuted his straw-man version of each, and you say he picked me apart?  What a conclusion to come to.

But I guess you have a track record of coming to completely irrational conclusions, don't you?

Read this article. If you don't accept it but understand it, you have a closed mind as stated in the video posted by Dan.

Ah, then I'd better accept it quickly. I wouldn't want to have a closed mind.

You still don't understand what DNA is. It's not a coincidence that DNA is the same in different creatures. DNA directly controls certain features / adaptations, and when it doesn't, it is junk DNA. Using DNA, you can track the history of an animal species to a common ancestor with another animal. The field of genetics, by definition, is evidence for evolutionary biology.

I never said it was a coincidence. There are similarities between DNA codes, because many animals have similar parts. However, it's illogical to look at those similarities and assume that the only possible way those similarities occurred was through evolution.

Edit: After reading a large portion of this article, I have to say this does support evolution. Most comedically, however, it supports Creationism too.

If a engineer/builder finds a design that works well, they tend to use it throughout their work. I won't pretend to be an architect, but I'll attempt to give an example. Triangular shapes have been found to make very sturdy structures. This is why many structures, such as bridges, are seen to have these geometrical shapes.

For Creationist, this is a similar case here. Bones, anatomy, and even DNA coding have certain designs that work very well. Therefore, why wouldn't it be used all throughout creation? It would be illogical not to. Therefore, homology provides evidence, no matter what side one argues for.