Author Topic: No admins = Password the server  (Read 3700 times)

Because:

The way i see it is, the more tools to use for managing a server, the better.

That's just my idealistic standpoint.

Also, It's a good way to practice actually finalizing an add-on.

If your server needs 24/7 administration, then the solution is to get more admins, not prevent people from joining
i DO plan to try to get 24/7 administration, the reason i want this is in the event no admins are online. this is like a fall back, in case any of the admins cant get online for some reason

A crude way to deal with a simple problem that has many solutions.

That's what I'm trying to do.
I don't want to see a server list filled with servers that are unjoinable because someone decided that passwording them due to lack of players would be a good idea
I work fulltime as a programmer, so I can look at it from that standpoint; with some professional insight
We get plenty of feature requests from our customers, some of them good, some of them....not so good. We turn them down because they're simply bad ideas
Lots of people will see X problem, and immediately jump to the conclusion of Y solution, when they really want Z solution.
If you frequent coding help, you see it quite often there: "How do I do Y?" "What problem are you trying to solve?" "I have X problem I need to solve." "Oh, then do Z"
In this case, the problem is "I need more admins"
The solution is "get more admins"
You could even add, as some people have already said, a remote access system

In case you haven't noticed, I'm far from the only person who thinks this is a bad idea. In two pages (almost half of which was us, so it's more like one page), Six other people said outright it's a bad idea. Two other people proposed alternatives
Then why are you making it?
If you can't think of a use case for something, if the person suggesting it can't present a valid use case for it, then you don't make it. If you don't have a problem that needs solving, then you don't try to solve that problem. If someone does come up with a problem, they may find this, but there could be a better solution out there
QFT, especially about having a Z solution.

clearly i have a use for it, who are you to tell me what i don't need for a server you don't even know exists? why would i suggest something be made that is utterly pointless? that is just rude as hell.

you come into this topic, say "oh, that thing you need is terrible, how about i give you something that you quite obviously wont need and that wont be of any use to you? oh also forget you! you are an idiot!"

Why not just one that passwords the server rather than kicking everyone out? That way the risk of having trolls come on going "admins aren't online, let's spam chat!" is minimal.
this idea is great, and someone else even said it was a great idea.

seriously you guys have to learn to calm down and be nice, i'm sick of the random undeserved aggression you guys give, especially to new players.

clearly i have a use for it, who are you to tell me what i don't need for a server you don't even know exists? why would i suggest something be made that is utterly pointless? that is just rude as hell.

you come into this topic, say "oh, that thing you need is terrible, how about i give you something that you quite obviously wont need and that wont be of any use to you? oh also forget you! you are an idiot!"
this idea is great, and someone else even said it was a great idea.

seriously you guys have to learn to calm down and be nice, i'm sick of the random undeserved aggression you guys give, especially to new players.
Well, if it isn't a private addon, then it affects us, too. If I can't join a game without getting kicked because of no admins, then so be it. Also, the alternate way of fixing your issue is a lot better.

Also, the alternate way of fixing your issue is a lot better.
i DO plan to try to get 24/7 administration, the reason i want this is in the event no admins are online. this is like a fall back, in case any of the admins cant get online for some reason

seriously you guys have to learn to calm down and be nice, i'm sick of the random undeserved aggression you guys give, especially to new players.
We're not flaming you. We're not being aggressive
also forget you! you are an idiot!"
No one is saying this.
We're telling you why your idea isn't good, and proposing alternatives.

how about i give you something that you quite obviously wont need and that wont be of any use to you?
What



CityRPG has widely been recognized as a bad gamemode, because of its need for constant administration to prevent people from doing stuffty things.
You can try to put the band-aid fix that are admins over the copiously bleeding wound that is CityRPG, but the best solution is to fix CityRPG.
That's what I've been saying; root problem
In ten seconds I just thought up: "How about players with a low playtime on the server can not perform the functions of CityRPG that could be abused without an admin on the server?"
Given more time (and more knowledge of what CityRPG allows) a more specific solution could be thought up
Obviously the best solution would be to make these features not abusable in the first place, but that might not be very feasible; if you post exactly what they are, you could be helped with that (I asked for this on the first page)
« Last Edit: December 25, 2014, 11:07:46 AM by Headcrab Zombie »

honestly the only problem that needs to be fixed is the random deathmatching. i would disable weapon damage but that would remove the point of the crime system and give police nothing to do.

setting a password doesnt kick everyone