Poll

Do human beings have a right to access drinking water? (AKA is access to drinking water a right or a privilege?)

Yes, absolutely, human beings have a fundamental basic right to access drinking water, regardless of ability to pay.
84 (91.3%)
No, water is a privilege that should be only accessible through paying corporations for it.
8 (8.7%)

Total Members Voted: 92

Author Topic: (PETITION) Nestlé Chairman says Humans don't have a right to drinking water  (Read 2484 times)

According to 99% of european and american philosophy, humans have the right to certain basic necessities and these rights are inalienable. If you wanna come in here and say "Humans don't have the right to anything" you're basically coming out and saying "I can kill anybody I want because humans don't even have the right to live".

I doubt that your post was remotely serious, considering the intense level of stupidity and lack of thought. I also highly doubt you are living modestly, especially if you're following these bullstuff ideals.

Don't even bring up your opinion bullstuff anymore. You don't have the rights to express your opinions.

We made it two posts before we started throwing insults.

No, I am serious. You have not the right but the privilege to do so you seize the oppurtunity. Nobody has given you the right to kill someone, you simply are able and have freewill.

This is all objective and based on personal belief. I do respect your view on it.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 08:14:18 PM by Neventii »

This is all subjective and based on personal belief. I do respect your view on it.
Alright, maybe I was mistaken in the way I expressed my view.
Quoting your earlier post:
You don't have a right to anything even life.
This isn't really an opinion as much as it is a 'fact' that you wish to force into the mix. If you wrote "In my opinion" it would make more sense. That statement by itself is entirely false as there are worldwide laws in place that address the rights of human beings.

Life isn't a priviledge, it's a right. Although a few countries have laws that disregard this, most of the world acknowledges that humans are born into this world against their own will, and have the right to either retain or end their life on their own consent or choice.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 08:19:16 PM by Path »

Alright, maybe I was mistaken in the way I expressed my view.
Quoting your earlier post:This isn't really an opinion as much as it is a 'fact' that you wish to force into the mix. If you wrote "In my opinion" it would make more sense. That statement by itself is entirely false as there are worldwide laws in place that address the rights of human beings.
Yes. It is falsified by man made laws and they were made for the betterment of man kind. However, on a fundamental level, without said man-made restrictions rights become forfeit and it becomes subject to freewill. Some one has bestowed those rights upon you but those are artificial and do not exist without someone to put them in place.

Naturally, there are no rights.

I completely agree with you in regards to man-made laws. And perhaps this might seem trivial but I believe it should be weighed and considered.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 08:21:46 PM by Neventii »

Neventii is habitual problem user Mounds Bar/Brozie. He is known for baiting and trolling. He's pretty much just another Bear Tracks-type casual troll. I'd recommend just ignoring his posts when he says stupid crap like what what he's been saying on the past 2 pages.

Naturally, there are no rights.
True.

However, you live on a human's planet, in a human's country. They provide the services of shelter and citizenship and you are required to obey their terms. Regardless of where you live, you are subject to said human rights. You cannot deny it and you cannot break it or add your own rights. If you are unhappy with said rights or laws, you're free to live on unowned pockets of the pacific or atlantic oceans.

Neventii is habitual problem user Mounds Bar/Brozie. He is known for baiting and trolling. I'd recommend just ignoring his posts when he says stupid crap like what what he's been saying on the past 2 pages.
Absolutely dismissive. I am being absolutely one hundred percent honest with my views.

True.

However, you live on a human's planet, in a human's country. They provide the services of shelter and citizenship and you are required to obey their terms. Regardless of where you live, you are subject to said human rights. You cannot deny it and you cannot break it or add your own rights. If you are unhappy with said rights or laws, you're free to live on unowned pockets of the pacific or atlantic oceans.
Yes, I agree with you, Path. I just wanted to help you understand what I was saying.

Neventii is habitual problem user Mounds Bar/Brozie. He is known for baiting and trolling. He's pretty much just another Bear Tracks-type casual troll. I'd recommend just ignoring his posts when he says stupid crap like what what he's been saying on the past 2 pages.
I know this, but he does have a point in his argument. What he's bringing up isn't really baiting or trolling. Regardless of someone's social karma, you should at least let them speak or express their opinion without criticizing

Yes, I agree with you, Path. I just wanted to help you understand what I was saying.
Understood. Sorry for briefly insulting you

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Documents/UDHR_Translations/eng.pdf
there's the official declaration of human rights
i don't see anything specifically regarding water but there is the right to life, despite whatever batstuff mounds bars is saying. Since life requires water, it's only logical to conclude that water is a human right.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Documents/UDHR_Translations/eng.pdf
Since life requires water, it's only logical to conclude that water is a human right.
Water is a psyiological need so it does count as the right to life. The only outlier in said needs is the need for love, and the need for excretion, which aren't really immediate needs or enforced in any way.

Understood. Sorry for briefly insulting you
I understand, Path. Mistakes are how I learn.

Water is a psyiological need so it does count as the right to life. The only outlier in said needs is the need for love, and the need for excretion, which aren't really immediate needs or enforced in any way.
actually it really is a biological need lol

water is necessary to clear out toxins. it also literally makes up most of our body. further, to perform photosynthesis (well i mean, yeah, for plants) have cells that loving work, you need water.
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