Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

[Night Fox]

that's not it at all
the students can express their religious beliefs in anything including places it normally can't (like a science class)

wooow
that's gotta be terrible
I mean, there's a chance you might have to hear someone talking about their religion?
your basic human rights are totally being ignored here

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[Harm94]

i don't know why you seemingly think the ACLU is some "anti-Christian" organization...

Too bad for you I have no religion. I hate people that want to force their believes onto others equally whether you are an atheist, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh, Pagan, Jew, Catholic, Satanist, follower of Cuthulu, ect.

the students can express their religious beliefs in anything including places it normally can't (like a science class)

Public school, public place, all us laws and constitution apply.

[Cappytaino]

I don't see how this promotes intolerant behavior or encourages students to use religion against each other.

[Mega-Bear]

follower of Cuthulu

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[Char]

still not sure how I should articulate my arguments against the bill...

This bill requires an LEA to treat a student's voluntary expression of a religious viewpoint, if any, on an otherwise permissible subject in the same manner the LEA treats a student's voluntary expression of a secular or other viewpoint on an otherwise permissible subject.

Now that I read the summary, this seems like it does help bullying, considering if you spoke out you would be "discriminating against a religious viewpoint".

Under this bill, a student may organize student prayer groups, religious clubs, or other religious gatherings to the same extent that students are permitted to organize other noncurricular student activities and groups. Religious student groups would be given the same access to school facilities for assembling, as well as the same opportunity to advertise or announce meetings of the groups, as is given to other noncurricular groups without discrimination based on the religious content of the students' expression.

Students can already have religious clubs and express their religion outside of work anyway, so this part of the bill is unnecessary.

This bill specifies that a student may express beliefs about religion in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of their submissions. A student would not be penalized or rewarded on account of the religious content of the student's work.

Most of the time, the religious content of a student's work is not even a factor in their assignment grade. The only time it would be if it was wrong, but now they can be wrong and still get it right.

This bill requires each LEA (local education agency) to adopt and implement a local policy regarding a limited public forum ( public property that the LEA provides for students as a place for expressive activity which may impose reasonable, content-neutral time, place and manner restrictions on certain groups or topics of speech) and voluntary student expression of religious viewpoints. An LEA would be in compliance with this bill if the LEA adopts and follows the model policy governing voluntary religious expression in public schools, which is detailed in this bill.

Under the model policy, the LEA would set a maximum time limit reasonable and appropriate to the occasion for each speaker to speak at a limited public forum. Only students in the highest two grade levels of the school and who hold one of the following positions of honor based on neutral criteria would be eligible to use the limited public forum:

(1) Student council officers;
(2) Class officers of the highest grade level in the school;
(3) Captains of the football team; and
(4) Other students holding positions of honor as the LEA may designate.

so people in a position of honor can basically just use this limited public forum to preach to everyone

bill summary source

[SlayerZ99]

Um whats so bad about this bill?

Isnt it just giving religious freedom in school basically.

[Char]

Isnt it just giving religious freedom in school basically.

You already have this.

Except now you can put incorrect answers on schoolwork and have it be correct because it's your religious view.
Or preach to everyone if you're in a "position of honor" (student council, football captain, etc.).
Or bully someone but get away with it because it's your religious belief.

[Night Fox]

Except now you can put incorrect answers on schoolwork and have it be correct because it's your religious view.

not sure how that's worse than forcing students to acknowledge beliefs other than theirs as "correct"?

Or preach to everyone if you're in a "position of honor" (student council, football captain, etc.).

you can already do this...

Or bully someone but get away with it because it's your religious belief.

I'm pretty sure the bill doesn't say you can do that lol

[SlayerZ99]

You already have this.

Except now you can put incorrect answers on schoolwork and have it be correct because it's your religious view.
Or preach to everyone if you're in a "position of honor" (student council, football captain, etc.).
Or bully someone but get away with it because it's your religious belief.

You cant just put your  religious views and get it correct
"Homework and classroom assignments shall be judged by ordinary academic standards of substance and relevance"

You can preach?
"The subject of the student introductions shall be related to the purpose of the event and to the purpose of marking the opening of the event, honoring the occasion, the participants, and those in attendance The subject shall be designated, a student shall stay on the subject, and the student may not engage in speech that is obscene, vulgar, offensively lewd, indecent, or promotes illegal drug use."

Not sure where is says you can bully people because its your religious beliefs by the way