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(SEE OP BELOW) Which opinion do you agree with?

Opinion 1
6 (75%)
Opinion 2
0 (0%)
Other/indecisive
2 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Author Topic: Manspreading - loveism through bus seat stances  (Read 2254 times)

Observe the pictures below, of many men in many subways spreading their legs to sit more comfortably on the bus, then -- which opinion on the situation do you agree with more?







Quote from: Opinion 1
Witness the absurd, offensive, ludicrous spectacle of inanity and stupidity currently surrounding the New York subway: a campaign to stop men sitting comfortably on public transport. We “manspread,” apparently, which observers have interpreted as “sit in such a way as not to painfully crush the testicles or snake” but which feminists insist is an expression of patriarchal authority. You could not, as British newspaper columnists like to say, make this stuff up.

One heroic social justice warrior took to the subway for a whole weekend, sitting as she imagines men do on the way to work. I have never seen a man sit quite as absurdly as she suggests, perhaps because I do not frequent public transport. But even in the dark bars of the London suburbs I trawled as a late teen looking for companionship, filled with desperate masculinity, I never saw such a comically absurd picture as this brave social justice warrior paints.

The manspreading complaint is couched as a response to “rudeness” by men, but it is no such thing: it is pathetic feminist pipsqueakery, the last dying gasp of a movement with nothing to win and nothing to say, determined to abuse and antagonise the male love at all costs and for whatever perceived or outright imaginary infraction it can conjure from the vicissitudes of everyday life. It is offensively trivial, and those associated with it ought to be ashamed.
http://web.test.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/22/what-is-manspreading-and-why-are-people-angry-about-it/

Quote from: Opinion 2
You may not know the term "manspreader," but if you've ever taken public transit, you most certainly know what it describes. For the uninitiated, manspreading is not the slight parting of the legs which may be required for men by biology, but the ensconcing of oneself in widespread, let-it-all-hang-out fashion. In its extremes, the manspread (so named because, quite simply, men do it far more frequently) takes up scores of valuable seat space.

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From weight to body positioning, those who want to be considered feminine have long been encouraged to take up as little space as possible. In the book What Every Body in Saying, author Joe Navarro discusses what he calls "splaying behavior." While on a couch or chair in your own home, he says, splaying is a sign of comfort. However it's also a non-verbal way of dominating your environment.

When defenders of the ball-sprawl feel their rights are infringed upon, I wonder if they have ever been exposed to the rules women have been subjected to about leg placement. Entire etiquette lessons are devoted to the virtuousness of the ankle cross and the vulgarity of the "European leg cross." A woman can be labeled a whore simply by the positioning of her legs. In this sense, manspreading is a manifestation of gendered territorial entitlement; it taps into, if you will, the male privilege of taking up physical space.
http://www.ravishly.com/2014/12/30/manspreading-manspreaders-public-transit-mens-rights-activists

welp time to go kill everyone brb

so no more free lapdancing ;(?
Damn, I cant even sit like that, too uncomfortable lol.

People actually argue over how other people sit?

here's my opinion:

everyone on the bus/subway is some form of weird/doing something weird

SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO MAKE EVERYTHING A loveISM ISSUE

The pictures seem to be super extreme as well, most of the time people have their legs spread to half that.

When did activism become about non-issues  :panda:

How dare someone sit with their legs open on public transit!

How dare someone sit with their legs open on public transit!

it's infringing on my rights of the

*takes a few seconds*

2nd amendment of the declaration of independence

People actually argue over how other people sit?
Welcome to the world.

everything seems to be perfectly fine
except this guy, who seems to be a bit excessive in spreading his legs almost touching the woman sitting about 2 people away from him
I don't know the premise of the image though, so it could have been harmless

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When defenders of the ball-sprawl feel their rights are infringed upon, I wonder if they have ever been exposed to the rules women have been subjected to about leg placement. Entire etiquette lessons are devoted to the virtuousness of the ankle cross and the vulgarity of the "European leg cross." A woman can be labeled a whore simply by the positioning of her legs. In this sense, manspreading is a manifestation of gendered territorial entitlement; it taps into, if you will, the male privilege of taking up physical space.
There's quite a big distinction between someone wearing trousers and having their legs apart some distance, and someone wearing a skirt or dress and having their legs apart.

For obvious reasons, there's certainly no chance of seeing someone's underwear or genitals if they're wearing trousers, man or woman.
If you had men wearing skirts, or dresses, or even skin-tight form-fitting trousers, and they were spreading their legs in such a way as to make their genitals prominent, then it would be a considerably bigger issue.


The main offence to take here is that people are taking up so much space for themselves on public transport, preventing others from sitting down or also sitting in comfort.
A few idiots sit with their legs so far apart that it's vulgar. It's hardly the norm.