Zapk-Abusing slayer to crash servers

[IkeTheGeneric]

You're still jumping for absolutely no reason from "Keep an eye out" to "Prove to me that he's innocent." The world doesn't work on guilty until proven innocent, it works innocent until proven guilty. If all he's done is put up with mic shenanigans that's absolutely no reason whatsoever to have any belief that he's going to be committing revocable offenses. YOU need to provide evidence that he's going to do what you claim he's going to do.

I'm not calling for honno to be revoked I just don't trust him one bit

Call it whatever you like but I'm convinced anyone directly associating with Zapk are capable of being as petty and malicious as he is

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[Akio]

bash bandwagon

this is the wrong words to use but you guys get my point

[Ipquarx]

Call it whatever you like but I'm convinced anyone directly associating with Zapk are capable of being as petty and malicious as he is

Okay, I'll call it a belief. Something you have faith in. Something you have no evidence to back up, but still trust. That's fine, believe all you want, but don't expect other people to unless you have evidence to bring to the table.

[IkeTheGeneric]

planr is a friend of honno

oh this makes sense

[--LegoPepper--]

I'm convinced anyone directly associating with Zapk are capable of being as petty and malicious as he is

if you're banning someone just because they're friends with someone who's malicious, then you should be banning more people than just honno.

[TheBlackParrot]

if you're banning someone just because they're friends with someone who's malicious, then you should be banning more people than just honno.

exactly, ban me while you're at it then as honno and i are friends

honno's fine. he's not malicious. zapk is malicious.
if anything honno's just a tad annoying.

[Mr Unicode]

I'm not calling for honno to be revoked I just don't trust him one bit

Call it whatever you like but I'm convinced anyone directly associating with Zapk are capable of being as petty and malicious as he is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

[CapTMeaT]

The issue is that there is absolutely 0 evidence that Honno actually does this or even condones it; CapT's statement is pure weasel word.

I was told that from multiple reputable people. I wouldn't just post that if I heard it from some random person. What's your problem with me?

[IkeTheGeneric]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

Why do you people keep underplaying the teamspeak thing like it couldn't possibly mean that honno is capable of more than just bending the rules for his buddy? It's not guilt by association, there's accounts that honno was acting jerkish because of zapk.

[Camel]

oh this makes sense

to be fair if planr is a friend of honno's he probably knows more about his character than you do, since only assumptions have been made thus far.

[Ipquarx]

Why do you people keep underplaying the teamspeak thing like it couldn't possibly mean that honno is capable of more than just bending the rules for his buddy?

Because it doesn't at all mean that, it doesn't imply it. Your argument is literally "he did tiny thing x! next thing you know he'll be doing big thing y!" which is literally the slippery slope fallacy.

[IkeTheGeneric]

to be fair if planr is a friend of honno's he probably knows more about his character than you do, since only assumptions have been made thus far.

it's more of a case of take planr's word or take stufflord's word

on one hand you're completely right that planr would be more familiar with honno on a friendlier basis, but on the other hand the first example I used implies that honno unmuted zapk in enough instances that it caused people to leave the teamspeak

honno kept letting zapk break the rules

and would unmute him and stuff after he micspams

Plus the two previous posts before that

zapk and honno are buddy/buddy, so i'd keep an eye out if honno joins your server

honno is generally a cool guy but his main flaw is that he goes along with zapks antics

I'm not trying to organize any witchhunt of honno I'm just saying that I don't trust him because of the multiple accounts given of him not being entirely trustable

[#Jeetlor]

Zapk kept on baiting me to talk on honnos server so that he could kick me over and over, but honno doesn't give two stuffs if zapk abuses.