Zapk-Abusing slayer to crash servers

[IkeTheGeneric]

Yes, but that doesn't answer my statement you quoted.

OK how about this: Can you prove why we shouldn't just ban honno from our servers ahead of time in case he wants to play sockpuppet for zapk?

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[XR-7]

no need to ban Zapk, he's already had all his keys revoked and the exploit has been patched

Nothing is stopping Zapk from buying new auth keys though. Although he is apparently revoke-on-sight, he can't be revoked if Badspot doesn't know about him yet. Maybe he can trace the credit card or something, but he could just as easily find another payment source.

A word of advice though, I'd just permanently ban anyone who joins named "Zapk" or any of his affiliated names (Zapkraft, Subpixel, Megapixel, etc)

[TheBlackParrot]

OK how about this: Can you prove why we shouldn't just ban honno from our servers ahead of time in case he wants to play sockpuppet for zapk?

because he's not stupid like zapk was

[portify]

VCE is a cluster forget to begin with, I suggested a new simpler but robust VCE but everybody just shoveled it aside, Port did say he made a new version of VCE and would release it once he fixed the bugs and added some more functions, but I never heard from him in the thread about it ever again.

There are (I believe) two separate versions of it I've made. I don't remember which is newer, which works the best or where both are. At this point it'd be best to rewrite it.

[Trogtor]

At this point it'd be best to rewrite it.

yeah uhuh *nudge nudge*

[portify]

yeah uhuh *nudge nudge*

well ok

[Pah1023]

OK how about this: Can you prove why we shouldn't just ban honno from our servers ahead of time in case he wants to play sockpuppet for zapk?

Because he might want to participate in the server, and the fact that he hasn't done anything yet.
From the time I've been with Honno, I haven't witnessed him doing anything malicious, or even try to.
Honno isn't a bad guy, and I believe he is smart enough as to not try anything like crashing servers, or ply sockpuppet for Zapk.

[Mr Unicode]

Because he might want to participate in the server, and the fact that he hasn't done anything yet.
From the time I've been with Honno, I haven't witnessed him doing anything malicious, or even try to.
Honno isn't a bad guy, and I believe he is smart enough as to not try anything like crashing servers, or ply sockpuppet for Zapk.

This,

[Planr]

OK how about this: Can you prove why we shouldn't just ban honno from our servers ahead of time in case he wants to play sockpuppet for zapk?

Lmao what kind of reasoning is this. Can you prove to me that God doesn't exist? See, that's not how it works lol. The burden of proof rests with the person making the positive claim. It's your burden to prove that Honno's a threat to servers, not mine to disprove.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Lmao what kind of reasoning is this.

me xeid and all our friends left because honno kept letting zapk break the rules and would unmute him and stuff after he micspams

Assuming what stufflord said was correct, Honno ignored all reason to unmute Zapk even after being a nuisance to everyone else. This is reason enough for anyone to expect Honno to follow along with Zapk's trolling.

I don't see a reason why anyone should trust people known to be in cahoots with Zapk. I'd rather not have people loving around with my server and I'm pretty sure most people feel the same way.

[Planr]

Assuming what stufflord said was correct, Honno ignored all reason to unmute Zapk even after being a nuisance to everyone else. This is reason enough for anyone to expect Honno to follow along with Zapk's trolling.

I don't think that expecting Honno to do something as extreme as attack servers just because he withheld justice towards Zapk in a teamspeak is a logical step to make.

[IkeTheGeneric]

I don't think that expecting Honno to do something as extreme as attack servers just because he withheld justice towards Zapk in a teamspeak is a logical step to make.

OK lemme spell it out for you since you seem to wanna go on defense so desperately. This is like, what, the fifth separate occasion that Zapk has been caught attacking servers? It's not about giving somebody a chance, it's about being weary of anyone in direct association with Zapk

You still haven't given me a good enough reason to trust Honno except for the assertion that giving his buddy a free pass when mic spamming isn't a reason to suspect that he'll do his buddy's bidding

[Ipquarx]

OK lemme spell it out for you since you seem to wanna go on defense so desperately. This is like, what, the fifth separate occasion that Zapk has been caught attacking servers? It's not about giving somebody a chance, it's about being weary of anyone in direct association with Zapk

You still haven't given me a good enough reason to trust Honno except for the assertion that giving his buddy a free pass when mic spamming isn't a reason to suspect that he'll do his buddy's bidding

You're still jumping for absolutely no reason from "Keep an eye out" to "Prove to me that he's innocent." The world doesn't work on guilty until proven innocent, it works innocent until proven guilty. If all he's done is put up with mic shenanigans that's absolutely no reason whatsoever to have any belief that he's going to be committing revocable offenses. YOU need to provide evidence that he's going to do what you claim he's going to do.

[shitlord]

OK lemme spell it out for you since you seem to wanna go on defense so desperately. This is like, what, the fifth separate occasion that Zapk has been caught attacking servers? It's not about giving somebody a chance, it's about being weary of anyone in direct association with Zapk

You still haven't given me a good enough reason to trust Honno except for the assertion that giving his buddy a free pass when mic spamming isn't a reason to suspect that he'll do his buddy's bidding

planr is a friend of honno

[Akio]

sorry for jumping on the honno bash bandwagon but i'm pretty sure he applied for admin at my server only to advertise his teamspeak, since he came on the server very rarely after.