Thinking about renting a keyboard/piano

[Canis]

I know nothing about the finer parts of electronic keyboards, but if the keys aren't weighted you're wasting your time.

This.

Don't get anything without weighted keys.

Do not get anything with less than 88 keys.

If you don't lose interest because you actually aren't interested in playing or learning music you like, you will lose interest very quickly when you realize your keyboard cannot replicate a real piano to any degree. You won't be able to know this until you find yourself needing to play notes lower or higher than you're able to, because that's not what the equivalent of a toy or a big synthesizer is built for. This won't even occur to you until you want to play more quietly or loudly, and you have to stop in the middle of the song and reach over to the goddamn volume dial and turn it down or up.

It is not good for any kind of complicated music and if you actually mean to get into playing this instrument in an enjoyable manner, I suggest you actually fork out the €500 and take a look at Yamaha's most affordable digital piano for the moment. You're better off with a years'-long investment instead of buying something that'll sit in the corner of your room until you sell it for cash or give it to a relative for some birthday present.

It's either that or save up money for a real, acoustic piano, because piano may be a compatible instrument, but you will waste money and completely stunt your progress until you buy something better if you pick a low-quality product. You also risk wasting money if you buy something used anyway - there's often restricted or no warranty, so you're stuck with any damages you receive.

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She wants to buy me a piano if i go to music school to do note study or whatever. Wich I can't right now because exams and that isn't open in July and August.
It takes 2 tears tho. How can you possibly learn notes for 2 years? It took me 3 days to be understand most of it and I already can play a song on some stuffty app on my phone.

A lot of it is probably practice, but music theory is more than understanding c-g scales and basic melodies; there's also figuring out keys/times, learning chords, understanding intervals, rests, symbols, dynamics, ext. It's a lot of work, so I'm guessing your mom doesn't think you'll be committed if you're not doing it as some kind of curriculum or program.

[espio100]

Do not get anything with less than 88 keys.

Sorry, I don't stuff money yet

[Canis]

Sorry, I don't stuff money yet

It's your funeral. I'm saying that if you don't 'stuff money', you're not going to be satisfied in the long run. I'm not shooting you down, I'm warning you of how stupid you're going to feel when you hit a snag in your progress and you need to beg your mom to buy you a keyboard again. It's either prepare for something meaningfully, or don't pursue it until you can. Half-assing it is going to discourage you and I'm telling you how you can avoid it.

Make a purchase that you'll like - hell, maybe even come to love. Not a purchase that you can't even fully utilize. This is coming from somebody with advanced experience playing piano for years; don't make yourself or your mom regret your decision. Just wait until something actually useful is within your budget.

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This as well. You need to either teach yourself the music you want to learn, or actually spend time comprehending the science behind it in class. Being good at a copy of piano tiles (a free, non-educational app) says nothing about your capacity to learn.

[espio100]

It's your funeral. I'm saying that if you don't 'stuff money', you're not going to be satisfied in the long run. I'm not shooting you down, I'm warning you of how stupid you're going to feel when you hit a snag in your progress and you need to beg your mom to buy you a keyboard again. It's either prepare for something meaningfully, or don't pursue it until you can. Half-assing it is going to discourage you and I'm telling you how you can avoid it.

Make a purchase that you'll like - hell, maybe even come to love. Not a purchase that you can't even fully utilize. This is coming from somebody with advanced experience playing piano for years; don't make yourself or your mom regret your decision. Just wait until something actually useful is within your budget.

I guess I should take your worth. I can rent one for 25 euros/month wich is p cheap considering most ask 50 or more.
Its this one, Yamaha P-80

This as well. You need to either teach yourself the music you want to learn, or actually spend time comprehending the science behind it in class. Being good at a copy of piano tiles (a free, non-educational app) says nothing about your capacity to learn.

Obviously. But it seems like music school takes stupidly long. My grandmother went there and it took 2 years before she got to touch the damn instrument (it was banjo btw). Thats ridiculous and just seems like a scam to me. I just want to read the sheet and play it. not the history behind a damn piano. I dont give 2 forgets about that.
I'd rather teach myself, its much more efficient and I can "study" at whatever time I damn please. Usually with sports or other weekly activities its fun at first but after a month I dont want to sacrifice every friday evening every week. I just get tired of it and end up quitting. I dont want this to happen with piano.
Its the same as how I learned myself HTML and CSS for example. It took me just a week (or less) to understand most of it. In class it takes a loving long time just for the basics and how to set up your damn document. The only thing I learned was to save my file as .htm instead of .html because of incompatibility with older systems, wich isnt even related to the actual code

[Canis]

If you can find a nice tutor, it should be a no-strings-attached sort of at-your-own-pace thing. Try and look for something like that. If you can't, teaching yourself how to play the instrument is honestly pretty good and it was the route I went down.

I completely empathize with your struggle, and your frustration. There's a real problem with standardized, watered down courses that try to cater to everything with diluted or irrelevant material when you just want to pursue it out of your own interests at a comfortable pace, not fill time and pay teachers for impersonal, empty schooling. I admire your desire to learn beyond that. But I want to stress that it's going to make your entire journey a lot damn harder if you get something lacking super essential features.

Renting a keyboard is a pretty awesome option if you have it. I didn't even consider that. But no matter how you go about learning it, you're gonna want something akin to the real thing while you do it.

(By the way, that course your grandmother took was bullstuff, but not every course is like that. I'd suggest taking a look at options and seeing what's worth trying. I don't know what they're like in your area though.)