Author Topic: Most pings show up as ---  (Read 491 times)

i can join some servers but most of the master list is ---. is everybody just really bad at port forwarding or is this just a problem on my end?

Since UPnP was introduced, a lot of Players don't port forward anymore because they don't feel the need to.
It is still better if they did because some players have problems with UPnP, but what can you do about it.
Most lack the skill to do it properly anyway.

You could post a screenshot if you think there are way more than you should have.
But it is normal to have almost half the list as "---" ping.

I don't get what would be different from port forwarding normally and with UPnP, it's the same thing except in one case you're doing it yourself, and in the other you're letting your router doing it.

I don't get what would be different from port forwarding normally and with UPnP, it's the same thing except in one case you're doing it yourself, and in the other you're letting your router doing it.
If it really was that similar, then both would be showing the ping instead of "---".
So it is not.

Port Forwarding is basically telling your router where to send packets if it is in a port range and the router doesn't know where to send it.

UPnP has to keep broadcasting things like device services and information over an entire network every time a new device is added or when a player tries joins the server.
In a big network, it slows it down significantly and poses huge security risks as malware can use it too.
Also, not all devices support UPnP.
I am not as familiar with UPnP as I am with Port Forwarding, but I do know some players are unable to join UPnP servers.
For more information, please refer to Wikipedia