Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity

[SupremeCommander]

I had originally thought we had accomplished something to prove it, but I was unsure so I didn't say anything about it. It seems like you're probably right, though. I can only find things proving that no one has done it yet.

But, if they do ever succeed, that pretty much solidifies that theory/hypothesis in the scientific community.

Well that's the point. We haven't made something from nothing in terms of life yet.

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[WhoDa?]

"In order to gain something you have to give something"?

[SupremeCommander]

Well that's the point. We haven't made something from nothing in terms of life yet.

This is really the only leg the god theory has to stand on right now, I mean, you could argue, probability wise, that eventually you'd have to get the right combination of atoms in such a configuration to create life, maybe, but I don't think that probabilities in terms of such enormous unknowns mean much.

"In order to gain something you have to give something"?

In this context meaning?

[Inv3rted]

wat
I can believe that we and monkeys are similar
but then, why are monkeys still on the planet if we evolved from them?
some got held back?

holy stuff you are handicapped

We didn't evolve from modern monkeys.

We share a common ancestor with them.

[The Russian]

If that was really it, it would've been that you can get into heaven no matter what.

[SupremeCommander]

holy stuff you are handicapped

We didn't evolve from modern monkeys.

We share a common ancestor with them.

No, don't call him handicapped. You cannot brand a scientist incapable for not being able to sow the soil, as equally as you cannot brand a farmer useless because he cannot perform heart surgery.
We don't all have your level of interest in this stuff. Most of us are simply amateurs with an interest for answers, as best as we can try and create them.
Everyone has their own specialty, hence universities have courses, and don't offer you everything-under-the-sun as a course.

[Inv3rted]

He's handicapped because he claims to know when he simply doesn't.

It's fine to be ignorant, but it's not fine to be ignorant and claim to have the answers.

[The Russian]

doesnt the adam and eve thing mean that their kids had kids with eachother?
and so on and so on, and one kid got burned and produced a black kid?
and so on and so on?

One of Noah's sons after the flood screwed up bad and he was cursed so he became darker or so the Bible says.

[WhoDa?]

This is really the only leg the god theory

Wait. I'm confused.
You said yourself that we can't make or, let's say, gain something without giving/sacrificing something else.
So, if some would have their beliefs on that, how do you explain that most of them would still believe in a god? How did it(or he in most cases) appear?

[Makingblah]

How energy first started, is something no one can explain. That is where your faith should come in. However, there is no religion old enough to support how it all started. And there never will. All religion is false.

[Inv3rted]

We know what started the universe. We just don't know what caused that to happen.

[yuki]

I know this one religion that blends evolution and christianitydoesnt the adam and eve thing mean that their kids had kids with eachother?
and so on and so on, and one kid got burned and produced a black kid?
and so on and so on?

What the forget are they teaching you kids these days?
Black people are black due to higher melanin count in their skin, you see this in all southern hemisphere countries except Australia (due to not residing there for hundreds of years). White people are whiter due to low melanin. Literally, they're permanently tan.

[Madmitten]

We know what started the universe. We just don't know what caused that to happen.

so that means scientists are 100 percent correct that we popped up from nothing.
and nothing popped up from nothing.
which popped up from a pen

[Inv3rted]

except Australia

Aboriginals.

[SupremeCommander]

He's handicapped because he claims to know when he simply doesn't.

It's fine to be ignorant, but it's not fine to be ignorant and claim to have the answers.

Regardless. He doesn't have PhD on the subject, so you'll have to accept that he isn't perfect.
He stated what beliefs he holds and then asked about monkeys, I don't take that as proclamation of expertise on a subject.

Wait. I'm confused.
You said yourself that we can't make or, let's say, gain something without giving/sacrificing something else.
So, if some would have their beliefs on that, how do you explain that most of them would still believe in a god? How did it(or he in most cases) appear?

It's a belief in a greater power, which isn't bound by the laws that we attribute to that which surrounds us.
As they claim, it is not for the likes of us to explain how god exists, nor how it operates, as we, naturally, cannot comprehend something that deviates from the laws we go by, and the fact that we've never encountered it.

I said 'we haven't made something from nothing in terms of life'. Its a little different.
If someone electrocutes a particularly bizarre combination of atoms tomorrow and creates a bacterium, for no matter how fleeting a second, I would happily concede and accept that the evolution theory (as opposed to the creation theory) has lost a large barrier in it being believable. But I do subscribe to the theory that matter cannot be wished into existence. That is the stuff of writer's conveniences in sci-fi novels.
If you subscribe to the interesting theory of multiple big bangs, wherein the universe makes a big crunch afterwards and is constantly expanding/collapsing over enormous periods of time, then one does ask where everything started. Something, in the absolute beginning, made the set amount of matter which exists in space today. Matter doesn't disappear or appear, so someone/thing/phenomena created it, or it was always there.

You cannot account for all the people who have miracles and become religious, nor those for whom religion provides a rock of stability in their lives in which to center an existence around. It tends towards more a matter of convenience for them, as well as the fact that god is neither disprovable nor provable at this time.

To ponder on how a god could be created in an absence of all else is pure speculation.