Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity

[Vulgus]

1. Someone says "IM NOT FROM GOD WHEREZ PROOF?"
2. Someone explains to them about all the things we know that supports creation.
3. The guy says "WTF I DIDNT SEE GOD OR SEE MYSELF COME FROM HIM SO I DONT BELIEVE IT."
4. Someone points out that there is no support to the evolution.
5. The guy says "HUR DUR IT IS WHAT ALL THE COOL SCIENTISTS SAY EVERYTHING IS FACT"
6. The cycle continues.

When did that ever happen

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[SupremeCommander]

I have absolutely no Proof of god's exsistence.

Ever.

So to at least put up a fair argument actually say something that actually goes to show he could be real. Rather then just making up some reason to disprove everyone

We have.

How did matter after the big bang become living (Bacteria/whatever you consider came first.)
Read up and find it. ):U

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NO STOP POSTING, EDIT.

When did that ever happen

Try talking to a devout member of religion _____.

[Vulgus]

Who said I believed in the Big Bang theory or evolution or Religion

[Visage]

You religious guys sure have a hard time believing something came from nothing, good thing god conveniently has ALWAYS existed, but even that theory still means god came from nothing.

[SupremeCommander]

Who said I believed in the Big Bang theory or evolution

Its proven, at least, that there was an explosion. Even I do not go so far as to doubt that.

[Metal Axe On Fire]

You religious guys sure have a hard time believing something came from nothing, good thing god conveniently has ALWAYS existed, but even that theory still means god came from nothing.

With intelligent design and evolution you are still ultimately left with the question "Where did that come from?" My problem with the whole evolution deal is that you not only start with this question, but then you have to believe that everything happened in this entire universe by pure chance. It turns into a "monkeys with typewriters" belief that all of the "time" that's passed makes up for the near impossible odds. It's just a little much for me.

[Visage]

-durrr-

So.... you believe in god because science is too hard?

[Vulgus]

Why we waste our life arguing.
Why not just live life happy without Rascism Argument in Religion Violence Etcetera?

[Metal Axe On Fire]

So.... you believe in god because science is too hard?

So.... you only read parts of my post that are quoted?

[SupremeCommander]

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We really don't know enough about the universe to have a chance at comprehending it in its entirety.
We know what its doing now, and what did that, but not what happened before.

A collection of atoms is not enough to generate life. You'd need to have some pretty fancy probabilities in there to make it turn into a bacteria. Its not impossible, just enormously improbable. Infinite time alone doesn't do anything. Your poor atoms don't get any smarter because they've sat there. They move around a bit and interact, perhaps form and break down from elements, but ultimately life isn't made.

I'm pretty sure that matter didn't materialize into a dinosaur [for instance] because every particle comprising its being, namely, billions and billions, were travelling in the correct vectors to facilitate such an event, regardless of what probability claims.
It is so infinitely unlikely that time immemorial would not facilitate such a thing. Probability was a human invention.
This isn't 'if you roll a bunch of marbles around it will eventually resemble something', you are dealing with mind-bogglingly large numbers of microscopic particles. To even humor that such a thing is possible is simply paying tribute to Douglas Adams' style physics. Bowls of petunias and whales don't, and probably never will appear in an instant.
The moment we find a whale carcass in space, I will eat my hat.

Why we waste our life arguing.
Why not just live life happy without Rascism Argument in Religion Violence Etcetera?

Because Inv3rted insists on making a big deal about it, whenever someone mentions religion.

[Mateo]

If you want to know why the big bang theory could have created the earth and why it's probable, think of this; Given a list of EVERY number, 0, 0.000000000000000000001, 0.00000000000000002, and all other numbers (in other words, INFINITE possibilities), and then you picked 1000 numbers and none of those numbers were 1, does that mean that you could never get 1? No. The more numbers you picked, the more likely (considering the total amount of numbers you've chosen) it is that you've picked one.

Given infinite time, it was bound to happen eventually.

[Duckmeister]

Combining the two:

Person 1: You're wrong!
Person 2: NO! You're wrong!
Repeat.

EXACTLY.

It all comes down to this.  Each and every worldview's foundations are based on this tautology.  You can't escape it.  The foundations are there, and they always will be.  The difference is this.  Christianity does not contradict itself, humanism and it's subsets do.  Christianity gives meaning and purpose to life, humanism destroys all meaning.  Christianity is the basis for all good, humanism makes everything relative and let's evil run rampant.  Christianity has always improved the world, and gives a wonderful basis for all law, ethics, knowledge, etc, instead of humanism which has led to genocide, anarchy, crime, and indoctrination.  The choice is simple, if you are willing to submit to a God who you've been trying to hold away for so long.

You religious guys sure have a hard time believing something came from nothing, good thing god conveniently has ALWAYS existed, but even that theory still means god came from nothing.

And yet you evolutionists insist that matter came from nothing, and then from non-living matter comes living matter, and so on and so on.  You can't criticize us for the very thing you do.  Good thing I believe in a benevolent God, instead of impersonal matter.  And besides, it's simple logic.  Everything has to have a first cause.  God is that first cause.  We can't, and don't have to explain him, just as you evolutionists can't, and refuse to explain what happened before the big bang.

If you want to know why the big bang theory could have created the earth and why it's probable, think of this; Given a list of EVERY number, 0, 0.000000000000000000001, 0.00000000000000002, and all other numbers (in other words, INFINITE possibilities), and then you picked 1000 numbers and none of those numbers were 1, does that mean that you could never get 1? No. The more numbers you picked, the more likely (considering the total amount of numbers you've chosen) it is that you've picked one.

Given infinite time, it was bound to happen eventually.

But you can't prove that you were given infinite time.  Time is an arbitrary requirement for evolution, made in lieu of having a reasonable, observationally and/or logically supported argument.

[Mateo]

But you can't prove that you were given infinite time.  Time is an arbitrary requirement for evolution, made in lieu of having a reasonable, observationally and/or logically supported argument.

But equally obvious is that it wouldn't necessarily take you an infinite amount of time.

[Vulgus]

If you want to know why the big bang theory could have created the earth and why it's probable, think of this; Given a list of EVERY number, 0, 0.000000000000000000001, 0.00000000000000002, and all other numbers (in other words, INFINITE possibilities), and then you picked 1000 numbers and none of those numbers were 1, does that mean that you could never get 1? No. The more numbers you picked, the more likely (considering the total amount of numbers you've chosen) it is that you've picked one.

Given infinite time, it was bound to happen eventually.

You quoted nothing

[SupremeCommander]

If you want to know why the big bang theory could have created the earth and why it's probable, think of this; Given a list of EVERY number, 0, 0.000000000000000000001, 0.00000000000000002, and all other numbers (in other words, INFINITE possibilities), and then you picked 1000 numbers and none of those numbers were 1, does that mean that you could never get 1? No. The more numbers you picked, the more likely (considering the total amount of numbers you've chosen) it is that you've picked one.

Given infinite time, it was bound to happen eventually.

Not if the number of zeros was infinite.
AND infinity did not elapse between the big bang and the Earth's formation.
You are dealing with probabilities you cannot imagine.

Besides, the Earth was made, and that is fine and dandy, you can trace it back to the bang, or so I hear. It is life that is the hot topic here.

Christianity is the basis for all good, humanism makes everything relative and let's evil run rampant.  Christianity has always improved the world, and gives a wonderful basis for all law, ethics, knowledge, etc, instead of humanism which has led to genocide, anarchy, crime, and indoctrination.  The choice is simple, if you are willing to submit to a God who you've been trying to hold away for so long.

Before someone else says it and tries to look smart:
INB4Crusades. :(