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I recommend looking at my earlier post, as this is easily refuted. The bill lowers premiums and and places regulations on the industry specifically to lower the cost of coverage while expanding it to the rest of the public. And I honestly believe that suffering a disease such as cancer or MS without treatment is much worse than lowered health care premiums.
My mother has MS, and my sister has lung cancer. So far, nothing seems to help any of it. What do you suggest?

stuff! Does my dad get a raise?

You're rich, then?

STOP loving BITCHING.

My mother has MS, and my sister has lung cancer. So far, nothing seems to help any of it. What do you suggest?

What helps is not paying out the ass for medical care.

Tom

Well it's still lies or his just too stupid to realize healthcare was passed in AMERICA.

You're 15, you don't even pay taxes.
Nope. But you don't see me complaining about it.

My mother has MS, and my sister has lung cancer. So far, nothing seems to help any of it. What do you suggest?

pay for the extremely expensive treatment. since you dislike government health care.

Tom

pay for the extremely expensive treatment. since you dislike government health care.
We'll he's supposedly rich, so it shouldn't even matter.

My mother has MS, and my sister has lung cancer. So far, nothing seems to help any of it. What do you suggest?
Look, I'm not saying I have a cure or these diseases aren't terrible, because they are terrible. I'm just pointing out that the treatment they are getting is a hell of a lot better than having to sit around with no treatment, while the disease progressively inflicts more damage.

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I suppose you also have the third option of paying huge sums of money for treatment, probably bankrupting your family.
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Evo
1. Your profile says you live in Deustchland. Probably lies to sound cool.
2. Do you even pay taxes?
Hurp Derp Big move, find flaws in the forgotten
And yes, I do.

Look, I'm not saying I have a cure or these diseases aren't terrible, because they are terrible. I'm just pointing out that the treatment they are getting is a hell of a lot better than having to sit around with no treatment, while the disease progressively inflicts more damage.
It is true, the treatment helps, barely. But the bill has nothing to do with it, we loose money, and they don't get any better with treatments.
No, we don't pay out the ass for treatments. We try to keep our house with this method.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2010, 11:33:52 PM by Evõ »

How do you abuse free insurance?

Get sick a lot?
Blasted cancer punks! Using all our insurances.

How do you loose money

Actually, you're quite an idiot.

This is no "socialist takeover". You loving rednecks have no idea whatsoever about what's in the bill, so perhaps you should read it before you speak out of your collective ass.

Every other single leading industrial country has universal healthcare. This bill doesn't even guarantee that; it's just a start.

The point is that it was passed. America now has a chance at not being ass-backward when it comes to healthcare.

The bill is far from perfect. The public option doesn't even exist anymore, so there isn't a government run insurance option. This means that there is no competition for monopolizing insurance companies, and they are able to raise premiums simply because they want to. The bill promises controls on that, and also stops various immoral and now illegal practices of insurance companies.

The point is that this bill can be added to and amended in the future. It's a start, and we'll eventually get a healthcare system that can actually be compared with Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, Switzerland, France, etc.

And just so you guys really know you're full of stuff: you're repeating the exact same arguments verbatim that were used against Medicare and Medicaid 50 years ago.

I'd like to see you people say Medicare and Medicaid should be abolished.

Also, pretty much everything in the bill that's a direct help to large insurance companies was put in by Republican members of congress, or are the remnants of things that would control them that were taken out by Republicans.

My god, I actually thought this thread was going to hell till I got here. Thank you Inverted and Ephialtes.

You all are seriously biased by your parents and their standpoints. Go shove it up your ass, and go on with your life, cause you certainly will not deal in politics anytime soon.

And I liked the part about Glenn Beck Ephi. :D

It is true, the treatment helps, barely. But the bill has nothing to do with it, we loose money, and they don't get any better with treatments.

So do you honestly think lowering health care premiums is bad, and doing nothing is better? If you think about it, the bill lowers rates! Kinda convenient, huh?

So do you honestly think lowering health care premiums is bad, and doing nothing is better? If you think about it, the bill lowers rates! Kinda convenient, huh?
Nah its a scam! See, by lowering the amount you fork over to insurance companies, you actually have less money!
It's all explained in this convenient formula:
Money you had - money you would pay to insurance companies > money you had and will continue to have because you don't waste it feeding a broken system.

Kind of makes me feel like nothing would be better.

Kind of makes me feel like nothing would be better.

My condolences for the diseases suffered by your family, but I definitely think that cheaper care for expanded coverage sure helps a lot more than expensive care with up front payments and rising premiums.