Author Topic: Easter time is heeeeere!!!  (Read 7894 times)

Dark Chocolate bunny is yum.
I also have a bunch of white chocolate, and some gummy stuffs. :D

In soviet Russia chocolate easter bunny eats you!

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Who says there was nothing at any point in the history of the universe?
"In its standard form, the big bang theory assumes that all parts of the universe began expanding simultaneously. But how could all the different parts of the universe synchronize the beginning of their expansion? Who gave the command?"
Andrei Linde, "The Self-Reproducing Inflationary Universe", Scientific American, vol. 271, 1994, p. 48

On the other note, how can a universe be contained in a single minuscule point of finite size only to explode with such a force that it spans to a size so grand that we still can not fathom the sheer magnitude? What happened to the gravitational constant that kept everything there? It simply didn't disappear. When a sun dies, it still contains a gravitational constant, in some cases creates an exponentially larger gravitational pull we know as a black hole. If this is the case, then why didn't that massive explosion simply cause a galactic sized gravitational singularity that prevented the entire universe from forming at all? The Big Bang seems to be a complete contradiction to how the universe works to this day. But that's just from what I read based on similar explosions of related galactic scale.

The gravitational constant didn't disappear, according to our present understanding it came into play later. This is all stuff we're working to find out. Science doesn't attribute things to the wizard in the sky, it seeks to find a satisfactory answer.

The gravitational constant didn't disappear, according to our present understanding it came into play later. This is all stuff we're working to find out. Science doesn't attribute things to the wizard in the sky, it seeks to find a satisfactory answer.
How can a gravitational constant not exist before something the size of the universe explodes? What was keeping it all together to begin with? Again, sounds like a lot of scientists making stuff up to try and explain something they will never know about. Sounds similar to any wizard in the sky theory to me.

How can a gravitational constant not exist before something the size of the universe explodes? What was keeping it all together to begin with? Again, sounds like a lot of scientists making stuff up to try and explain something they will never know about. Sounds similar to any wizard in the sky theory to me.

You're right, it's theory. To be 100% honest we don't know for reasonably sure anything that happened before or at the exact time of expansion. We've managed to wind back the clock to fractions of a second after the expansion. That's a feat that no wizard in the sky could accomplish.

i cant believe that an all wise, all knowing creator of everything would care to be symbolic about things.

god was perfectly fine telling people to sacrifice the best goat they had to forgive their sins. then one day, god up and changed his mind like "ok lets try something new, im going to have my kid sent to be killed so you dont have to kill goats anymore."

what kind of pagan ritual crap is that? i refuse to believe a real god would play these games. its extremely inconsequential to humanity and the universe. but THAT is important to him.
not only does he NEED people to believe and trust him. but he will play all these symbolic and cryptic games on humanity to earn it.
i call bullstuff on anything spiritual.

bisjac lost his faith many years ago due to thing like this.


i cant believe that an all wise, all knowing creator of everything would care to be symbolic about things.

god was perfectly fine telling people to sacrifice the best goat they had to forgive their sins. then one day, god up and changed his mind like "ok lets try something new, im going to have my kid sent to be killed so you dont have to kill goats anymore."

what kind of pagan ritual crap is that? i refuse to believe a real god would play these games. its extremely inconsequential to humanity and the universe. but THAT is important to him.
not only does he NEED people to believe and trust him. but he will play all these symbolic and cryptic games on humanity to earn it.
i call bullstuff on anything spiritual.

bisjac lost his faith many years ago due to thing like this.
Yay religion wars!

You're right, it's theory. To be 100% honest we don't know for reasonably sure anything that happened before or at the exact time of expansion. We've managed to wind back the clock to fractions of a second after the expansion. That's a feat that no wizard in the sky could accomplish.
Show me this magical device that allows us to travel backwards in time to witness this first hand and I'll believe you. Science does not know, nor will it ever know because we can not travel back in time to observe this. Telescopes can only show us latent radiation from an explosion that happened billions of years ago but that does not prove everything in the universe existed at a singular finite point, blew up and formed everything we know. That is all guesswork by scientists, who on a cosmic perspective, are still in their infancy of knowledge. How am I to trust people who can't explain half the things that happen in this world to tell me how a universe began?


Science does not know, nor will it ever know

didn't they say this exact same line about all of humanity's greatest feats?
religious people fear learning to much, because its contrary to their god. so they assume/want things to not be learned.

its easy to say "god did it" till science figures it out, then they cant wait to give god credit for the study anyways.

didn't they say this exact same line about all of humanity's greatest feats?
religious people fear learning to much, because its contrary to their god. so they assume/want things to not be learned.

its easy to say "god did it" till science figures it out, then they cant wait to give god credit for the study anyways.
That's a poor dodgy excuse for "You know, you're right, we won't really know short of time travel." God has nothing to do with how science still fails to prove the Big Bang.

I got a basket full of Reeses bunnies and all sorts of chocolates and candies. :D

That's a poor dodgy excuse for "You know, you're right, we won't really know short of time travel." God has nothing to do with how science still fails to prove the Big Bang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics

You don't care about getting a reasonable explanation, you care about getting an explanation of everything, right or not. That's why you're not seeing this on the same level as we are.