I don't need a fancy Ipod or zune, I am happy with my Dell DJ. I can easily download songs from amazon for a buck to windows media library. It's about the size of a deck of cards, and holds 20 GBs, which is probably even more than the most expensive Ipod. I don't give a darn about features like video, radio, games, internet, etc., all I need is a nice compact Mp3 that holds a good amount of songs.