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Time is not a constant, however the speed of light is, so therefore traveling faster than light can cause time travel.
The concept of "time" being a manipulative object is still being questioned.  As far as we're concerned, particles are simply moving.  Someone's going to call me out by saying that we've seen "time" change from tests, however, that's simply the slowing/speeding of specific particles.  Sure, you can refer to this as time, but it, again, isn't an object that you can simply change.  The theory of time travel can only apply to future preferences.  We can slow down the extent of which we view something, or, slow down the particles surrounding us to a specific extent, but we will NEVER be able to reverse the flow of/recreate particles.  Unless we somehow manage to build something that duplicates all particles in the universe and has the ability to restore them... but that wouldn't be travelling through time.

Ultimately, time travel's a paradox, because it's manipulating a non existent concept.

Time is not a constant, however the speed of light is, so therefore traveling faster than light can cause time travel.
Time is a constant, because no matter what you do you can't change it.
1 second is still 1 second no matter what you do.

Time is a constant, because no matter what you do you can't change it.
1 second is still 1 second no matter what you do.
You can slow the speed at which time projects.  So, no, it is not a constant.

You can slow the speed at which time projects.  So, no, it is not a constant.
No you can only change the speed of something. Not time its self.

No you can only change the speed of something. Not time its self.
Time is only a theory based off of the rate at which things move.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapiro_delay

Time is not a constant, however the speed of light is, so therefore traveling faster than light can cause time travel.
You cannot go faster than the speed of light. It is simply impossible as long as you have any mass whatsoever. Since you cannot rid yourself of mass without ridding yourself of your body, you cannot surpass that speed. The best we can do is get REALLY close.

I'm not going to bother with the whole general relativity conversation here because it's all just frames of reference and I'm too tired after work, however I feel obliged to correct some factual errs.

No you can only change the speed of something. Not time its self.
Traveling near or at the speed of light supposedly slows time, however I'm not entirely comfortable with this proposition by Einstein since time isn't really manipulative, and most of it is based on observations from within specific frames of reference.

You cannot go faster than the speed of light. It is simply impossible as long as you have any mass whatsoever. Since you cannot rid yourself of mass without ridding yourself of your body, you cannot surpass that speed. The best we can do is get REALLY close.
You would theoretically need a negative mass to go faster than the speed of light, not no mass.  A lack of mass such as in photons allows you to reach the speed of light.  Since electrons and quarks, etc, are so tiny and nearly massless, they can reach close to the speed of light, most easily observed when they're flung from supermassive black holes.

The concept of "time" being a manipulative object is still being questioned.  As far as we're concerned, particles are simply moving.  Someone's going to call me out by saying that we've seen "time" change from tests, however, that's simply the slowing/speeding of specific particles.  Sure, you can refer to this as time, but it, again, isn't an object that you can simply change.  The theory of time travel can only apply to future preferences.  We can slow down the extent of which we view something, or, slow down the particles surrounding us to a specific extent, but we will NEVER be able to reverse the flow of/recreate particles.  Unless we somehow manage to build something that duplicates all particles in the universe and has the ability to restore them... but that wouldn't be travelling through time.

Ultimately, time travel's a paradox, because it's manipulating a non existent concept.
Simply to back this up, time is a dimension.  A snapshot of any given moment has 3 dimensions, X Y and Z, if you will.  A video has 4 dimensions, because now you associate sequence with those snapshots, and "move" through time.  Hence time as the 4th dimension.

The universe could have so much more than we can see, so its likely that no one is even close to how things actually work.

We are observing everything from a certain frame of reference, and we don't know what other references there are...

Ugh....

Simply to back this up, time is a dimension.  A snapshot of any given moment has 3 dimensions, X Y and Z, if you will.  A video has 4 dimensions, because now you associate sequence with those snapshots, and "move" through time.  Hence time as the 4th dimension.
The dimension you're referring to is simply a unit of measurement.  Not an object itself.  The movement of particles isn't a specific something that abides by a single system.

The concept of "time" being a manipulative object is still being questioned.  As far as we're concerned, particles are simply moving.  Someone's going to call me out by saying that we've seen "time" change from tests, however, that's simply the slowing/speeding of specific particles.  Sure, you can refer to this as time, but it, again, isn't an object that you can simply change.  The theory of time travel can only apply to future preferences.  We can slow down the extent of which we view something, or, slow down the particles surrounding us to a specific extent, but we will NEVER be able to reverse the flow of/recreate particles.  Unless we somehow manage to build something that duplicates all particles in the universe and has the ability to restore them... but that wouldn't be travelling through time.

The dimension you're referring to is simply a unit of measurement.  Not an object itself.  The movement of particles isn't a specific something that abides by a single system.

Ultimately, time travel's a paradox, because it's manipulating a non existent concept.
Time is just another measurement that we as humans have come up with.
you beat me to it

Anyway, you can not travel through time any more than you can travel through inches or Volts.
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Time is not a constant, however the speed of light is, so therefore traveling faster than light can cause time travel.

The speed of light is not a constant. How else do you think light refraction occurs, hmm?

Christianity.
>:C

If a person and a turtle were walking on a cube that continued to loop forever, and the person was on one side of the cube, the turtle on the cube face ahead of her, [in theory] the person should never see the turtle, no matter how many loops the girl takes, because the turtle will be one cube face ahead of her.

Example picture:


Of course, we all know we could easily catch up to the turtle, but remember that this is a paradox. /endofsmarttalking
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>:C

If a person and a turtle were walking on a cube that continued to loop forever, and the person was on one side of the cube, the turtle on the one 90 degrees ahead of her, [in theory] the person should never see the turtle, no matter how many loops the girl takes, because the turtle will be one cube face ahead of her.

Example picture:



Of course, we all know we could easily catch up to the turtle, but remember that this is a paradox. /endofsmarttalking

If I take a loop of paper and draw a different color line on each side of the paper, the two colors will never see eachother. Not sure how that is a paradox

The dimension you're referring to is simply a unit of measurement.  Not an object itself.  The movement of particles isn't a specific something that abides by a single system.
Well you're going by spacetime, which is more complicated for argument's sake at this point.  However, the 4th dimension I was using wasn't simply an abstract measurement of sequence, because motion isn't possible without time.