I do use tdm, it's the event to end minigame, I tried using on print count underflow and vce, then I used only vce, and now I'm using relays currently. I plan to work a newer map later, and if you won't accept me as an actor tell me, I'll show you my set build to see if I can at least apply for that
Edit - Also, I want events that end it so ducks actually win and it isn't just a draw at the end.