Marijuana

[Kovita]

I swore never to smoke or do drugs in my entire life. NEVER.

lol

No. Nononononono.

Marijuana, like any other drug, increases the chances of schizophrenia actually been noticeable. I'm not going to develop schizophrenia in the next 5 years if I toke and drop acid every single day. unless I already have it, then it just worsens. Get it?

when you mean it gets worse, do you mean when your psychosis comes out its much more critical?

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[Ryuu]

I swore never to smoke or do drugs in my entire life. NEVER.

Good for you, don't.

when you mean it gets worse, do you mean when your psychosis comes out its much more critical?

People are born with Schizophrenia, and other mental illness. Some aren't. What I mean is, LSD, Shrooms, Marijuana, and other drugs that affect you mentally, can speed up the process at which Schizophrenia can affect you. If you don't have it, don't worry about mental illness then.

But that's the thing, you don't really know if you have schizophrenia or not.

I read somewhere that 4.7% of people who started smoking marijuana at the age of 15, had schizophrenia by the time they were 25. This doesn't mean they developed it, it just means the marijuana increased it's growth, per se'.

[Kovita]

so it's the age that lowers, not the amount, technically?

[Tom]

when you mean it gets worse, do you mean when your psychosis comes out its much more critical?

If you were already predisposed to it you have like a 900x more chance of getting it.

We can't definitively prove how much marijuana increases chances of getting it if you aren't predisposed, but some evidence says that it still does increase your chance significantly.

so it's the age that lowers, not the amount, technically?

I'm not exactly sure how mental illness develops, but if something is onset earlier in your life there would probably be more time for it to get worse.

[Ryuu]

so it's the age that lowers, not the amount, technically?

what? I'm not following you here.

If you were already predisposed to it you have like a 900x more chance of getting it.

We can't definitively prove how much marijuana increases chances of getting it if you aren't predisposed, but some evidence says that it still does increase your chance significantly.
I'm not exactly sure how mental illness develops, but if something is onset earlier in your life there would probably be more time for it to get worse.

Most of them are caused by traumas, or triggered by traumas.

[Tom]

Even though some evidence shows marijuana can prevent some mental illnesses, you shouldn't just start taking marijuana with the hope that it will keep you from getting a mental illness you might not even have. That's like taking some random medicine from your parents cabinet thinking it will help you.

[Ryuu]

You shouldn't just start taking marijuana with the hope that it will keep you from getting a mental illness. That's like taking some random medicine from our parents cabinet thinking it will help you.

Where did someone in this thread mention that marijuana will keep you from developing a mental illness? I think I missed that :o

[Tom]

Where did someone in this thread mention that marijuana will keep you from developing a mental illness? I think I missed that :o

People have mentioned it a few times, but I think the last time was awhile back.

It's actually kind of a grey area because I see a lot of stuff that says it causes mental illness, and then some stuff that says it prevents them. It just goes to show that we truly do not know enough about this stuff to make recreational use legal. At one time everybody thought cigarettes were perfectly safe.

[Ryuu]

People have mentioned it a few times, but I think the last time was awhile back.

It's actually kind of a grey area because I see a lot of stuff that says it causes mental illness, and then some stuff that says it prevents them. It just goes to show that we truly do not know enough about this stuff to make recreational use legal.

While I agree with you on the fact that we don't know a whole lot about the mental illness aspect, we know enough to know prolonged use isn't going to cause someone to talk to his dead grandmother at night and develop schizophrenia, unless he had it to begin with.

And why is this stuff legal?
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[Kovita]

You were saying that pot makes schizophrenia come out sooner, so I was saying that does the age in which it come out decrease in most pot users?

[Ryuu]

You were saying that pot makes schizophrenia come out sooner, so I was saying that does the age in which it come out decrease in most pot users?

I doubt age has anything to do without.

[Kovita]

DAMMIT. This is confusing me. Please dumb-down the effect of pot on schizophrenia.

[Tom]

I've posted this a few times already, but I'll post it again. This explains multiple studies very simply:
http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html

[Ryuu]

DAMMIT. This is confusing me. Please dumb-down the effect of pot on schizophrenia.

Alrght....

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SUBJECT A WITH SCHIZPHRENIAAAAAAAAA
1. I have schizophrenia.
2. I smoke pot. A lot.
3. I smoke for about 4-9 years straight, every day/week.
4. My schizophrenia gets worse.

SUBJECT B WITHOUT SCHIZPHRENIAAAAAAAAA
1. I don't have Schizophrenia.
2. I smoke pot. A lot.
3. I smoke pot for about 4-9 years straight, every day/week.
4a. My schizophrenia doesn't get worse because I don't have it.
4b. I don't develop schizophrenia, because studies show you don't.


Happy?

[Kovita]

no...and i feel like a complete dumbass for saying that lol.

i mean, how does it get 'worse'?