A question to christheads (yay reli-war)

[Wizard]

Please be stupid somewhere else.

Blockland cloud lolololololololololol.

I just remembered that his name is maor.m!

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[Kalphiter]

Blockland cloud lolololololololololol.

I just remembered that his name is maor.m!

You just made yourself look like a bigger idiot.

[*Magick* Mage]

It doesn't matter what you "believe" the bible says outright that your life IS predestined and god knows exactly the stuff that's going down. He knows that Otis is a child enthusiast and mwhatsisface is going to rape some friend.

Could you quote it for me. To the best of my knowledge, predestination was a part of the protestant reform, in which it entailed that God decided whether each man was saved or damned (in it's most simple sense). For Him to be fully omniscient (But not have predetermined), this would differ, as He would then follow your future as determined - in a way - by your own accord and God would judge you by this. While similar, they are two different ideas.  

[Kalphiter]

in which it entailed that God decided whether each man was saved or damned

Which is one major flaw.

[*Magick* Mage]

Which is one major flaw.

What do you mean?

[yuki]

You just made yourself look like a bigger idiot.

You're doing a bang-up job of that.

It doesn't matter what you "believe" the bible says outright that your life IS predestined and god knows exactly the stuff that's going down. He knows that Otis is a child enthusiast and mwhatsisface is going to rape some friend.

The bible is a religious text and no one can validate any of its claims or even find the slightest hint of any factual proof that anything in the bible ever happened, and has been revised multiple times and rivals both the Koran and the Torah. The only reason that book is even "sacred" is because people like you believe in it so much you completely overlook all of the impossibilities, inconsistencies, hypocrisy, and just generally handicapped stuff that is in it just to have some sort of basis for your faith. If you want to believe in a deity, do it, but referencing an EXTREMELY sketchy text that is most probably fiction, as fact, is stupid and ignorant.

[TheKhoz]

For Him to be fully omniscient (But not have predetermined), this would differ, as He would then follow your future as determined - in a way - by your own accord and God would judge you by this. While similar, they are two different ideas.  

:s

[*Magick* Mage]

:s

Hm? :o

The only reason that book is even "sacred" is because people like you believe in it so much you completely overlook all of the impossibilities, inconsistencies, hypocrisy, and just generally handicapped stuff that is in it just to have some sort of basis for your faith. If you want to believe in a deity, do it, but referencing an EXTREMELY sketchy text that is most probably fiction, as fact, is stupid and ignorant.

Isn't Wizard an Atheist? Or did I miss something? o.o

[Kalphiter]

:s

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[duke 838]

Why would you need to live on earth truly it couldn't be to prove you are good. Take it like this if you built a brick house and one brick fell out you wouldn't judge it, or the house. You made it, it was your fault.


/godcausedeverythingbadifheisrealandlovestufflerandyouworshipthisstarfishthedevilisfarbettter ;D

^Don't bother with that^

[WhoDa?]

-bla-

Ah, so you compare god with mortals, I see..

[*Magick* Mage]

Take it like this if you built a brick house and one brick fell out you wouldn't judge it, or the house. You made it, it was your fault.

"DAMNED ARE YE, FOUL BRICK, FOR ACCOSTING I IN THY IMPERFECTIONS"

:D?

[Wizard]

Could you quote it for me. To the best of my knowledge, predestination was a part of the protestant reform, in which it entailed that God decided whether each man was saved or damned (in it's most simple sense). For Him to be fully omniscient (But not have predetermined), this would differ, as He would then follow your future as determined - in a way - by your own accord and God would judge you by this. While similar, they are two different ideas.  

God is omnipotent (he has to be because he created an infinite universe) and is therefore capable of tracking every interaction and state of every particle in the universe at any time. Your life is predetermined as the existence of omniscience requires.

The bible is a religious text and no one can validate any of its claims or even find the slightest hint of any factual proof that anything in the bible ever happened, and has been revised multiple times and rivals both the Koran and the Torah. The only reason that book is even "sacred" is because people like you believe in it so much you completely overlook all of the impossibilities, inconsistencies, hypocrisy, and just generally handicapped stuff that is in it just to have some sort of basis for your faith. If you want to believe in a deity, do it, but referencing an EXTREMELY sketchy text that is most probably fiction, as fact, is stupid and ignorant.

What? I'm atheist and am arguing for atheism.

[duke 838]

Ah, so you compare god with mortals, I see..

Yes i do, why would you make something bad if you didn't have to? If god really was all caring and had your life planned out with complete control of it, why would he kill people cruelly? "Well to get to my holy home, you need to die a horrible death, while others can live, and then die a painless death, hurr dur I'm handicap." -God, really

[Wizard]

Ah, so you compare god with mortals, I see..

If god's feelings can't be understood in the same way that mortal's can why do christians always pretend that god wants this or god thinks that or god does this or god's book says this?