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Opinions on Sixx AM?

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They's k.
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Author Topic: Caution's playlist. [176]  (Read 12003 times)

Thank you. I myself found it quite diverse. Also I think In The End is even more of a "cue" than Numb is.

I actually saw Blink 182 in concert once. :D

Kid Cudi
MGMT
REM
(0ld) Kanye
Slipknot/similar nu metal

and  kesha and nickelback

Are you being serious or just bullstuffting? :P

I hate REM except for the end of the world song. I don't mind Kanye. Ke$ha is annoying. Nickelback is pretty good, but I think M's argument can apply to them as well.

SOAD has far better songs than chop suey

And where are the protomen? :(

Thank you. I myself found it quite diverse. Also I think In The End is even more of a "cue" than Numb is.

I actually saw Blink 182 in concert once. :D

Are you being serious or just bullstuffting? :P

I hate REM except for the end of the world song. I don't mind Kanye. Ke$ha is annoying. Nickelback is pretty good, but I think M's argument can apply to them as well.

kesha and nickelback suck

 rest were serious


oh and I like the offspring too, cant forget them

SOAD has far better songs than chop suey

And where are the protomen? :(

I haven't listened to them too much. From what I have heard they get a bit too... hardcore, if you will, for my tastes.

And who? :o

I haven't listened to them too much. From what I have heard they get a bit too... hardcore, if you will, for my tastes.

And who? :o

The Protomen - The Stand (Man or Machine)

It's an electro-rock-opera based on loving Megaman. Hell yeah. Mind you I don't really like the rest of it but this part is loving awesome.

Do you understand now? Do you see that the truth is, they don't want to change this - they don't want a hero, they just want a martyr, a statue to raise!
This song makes me... vaguely aroused. And inspired.
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I haven't listened to them too much. From what I have heard they get a bit too... hardcore, if you will, for my tastes.

And who? :o

the protomen are the best!

They wrote 2 albums about the first 2 megaman games and are making a third to finish the story ;D

It's pretty cool, actually, but not quite up my alley. :I

It's pretty cool, actually, but not quite up my alley. :I

You could always try the second album if you like 80s, there's a lot of 80s in it

You could always try the second album if you like 80s, there's a lot of 80s in it

It's better yet but still not feelin' it. Maybe I'll dig deeper tomorrow.

New Counting Crows song. I actually like them even if the singing isn't too strong.

"oh no emo stuff obviously sucks". I've liked Linkin Park for a long time, they're good and honestly 90% of people who dislike them have listened to maybe one song of theirs and decided to jump on the bandwagon for social acceptance. The instrumental parts of the music are simple but well done and the singer has a good smooth voice even when yelling. And could you honestly critique it in any way other than "oh it's emo" or "it's stuff because it's stuff"?

First off, I don't hate it because it's "emo crap".  I can and do enjoy "emo crap" bands like Alkaline Trio, for example.

Second, just because you've liked Linkin Park for a long time, just because 90% of the people who dislike them haven't really listened to them, doesn't mean that they are good.  You are not the sole arbitrator as to whether a band is "good" or not.  You have to respect different music tastes.  I agree, people who listen to one song and claim that the band sucks, they are morons.  I've listened to many Linkin Park songs (in the interest of *gasp* finding out if I like them), and I still dislike them.

Third, you go on to give some things you like about their songs.  But, really?  "The instrumental parts are well done and the singer has a smooth voice" is something that anyone can say about a band that they like, whether it's objectively true or not.

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Now, I will honestly critique Linkin Park over the next few paragraphs.

I cannot stand screaming in music, at all.  I realize that not all of their songs include screaming, and those songs I like better than the others.  That's just my taste. 

Another problem that I find with most modern rock songs, is that they are run through Pro Tools to the point where the song just sounds too perfect.  It takes the soul out of the song.  I dislike that about post-Dookie Green Day.  I dislike that about bands like Nickelback.  I dislike that about a lot of bands.

Of course, with Linkin Park, they try to make up for that with "soulful" lyrics, which end up sounding like a bunch of crying emos.  Which isn't a problem for just a few couple songs, but when every song is about wanting to kill yourself, or alternatively, "only the pain lets you know you're alive", it gets tiring.  I have the same complaint againsts bands like Disturbed, every song is about hell and demons.  And the ones that aren't, I like better (such as Stricken).  The stereotypes are there for a reason, you know.

Then, there's the fact that pretty much every song of theirs sounds the same.  I realize that each band has it's own sound, but it seems like they never even try to do anything different.  Every song is just "smooth instrumental part sometimes accompanied by whiny vocals" leading into "ear-shattering blast of distortion usually accompanied by screaming".  It's as if the guitars have never known any other tuning than drop D.  And the songs that are different are so desperate to break the stereotype that they just end up sounding like crap anyways.  A lot of bands fall into that category.

Finally, they have no musical integrity.  You can tell, each song is designed to sound good, and not necessarily to be a good song, if you know the difference.  After their first album, each one is just designed to rake in the money.  They've found a market of school kids trying desperately to be tough and rebellious by listening to noise their parents (and their schoolmates) don't like, yet isn't intellectually stimulating in the least sense of the word.

Now, I shouldn't have to say any of this, because "I don't like Linkin Park" is an opinion, one that I shouldn't have to defend.  If you were to provide an actual argument as to why I should like Linkin Park, instead of calling me a closed-minded emo-hater, then I would have a lot more respect for your musical tastes.

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Now, I like some bands that Caution has on the list, such as Staind, Creed, Alter Bridge, Three Doors Down (early stuff), Fuel, Goo Goo Dolls (really early stuff), Train, Audioslave, etc.  The problem is that those are the kinds of bands I call "second-rate" as in, the kind of bands that I like a few songs from, wouldn't listen to them daily, don't really like their new stuff.  I have them on my playlist, but I have it weighted so that my "first-rate" songs play twice as much as the "second-rate" songs.

Really, Caution and I just have different musical tastes.  I said the playlist sucked, because from my perspective, it did suck.  Don't take it personally.

tl;dr read the parts in between the "-----"s

Giant awesome post
Well played, sir.

I owe you an apology as in my post I said that I hate people who generalize and stereotype things based on very little evidence, and then went on to do these things to you. Probably the best post I've read in quite a while and brought up some legitimate issues that I wouldn't have really thought about, since they're things that go on in 90% of my music so I don't really see them as significant. So, sorry for arcing up at you for no reason like that.

Well played, sir.

I owe you an apology as in my post I said that I hate people who generalize and stereotype things based on very little evidence, and then went on to do these things to you. Probably the best post I've read in quite a while and brought up some legitimate issues that I wouldn't have really thought about, since they're things that go on in 90% of my music so I don't really see them as significant. So, sorry for arcing up at you for no reason like that.

If I was harsh in my post, I apologize.  You get +1,000,000 respect for being willing to reconsider your view, and another million for replying in a friendly manner, and yet another million for reading my post all the way through.  I've never seen someone react in such a way on these forums.

What?  A friendly discussion/argument with no flaming on the Blockland Forums?  This is the Blockland Forums, right?  HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?

Holy stuff. And I used to not like you much. Props to you, Duck.

The way I see it, Linkin Park is a band that really likes to experiment with their music. I can agree their earlier stuff isn't that great, neither is their Minutes to Midnight album, however their new album shows a different side of them. In it, they offer much milder music, as in if I were to hear them on the radio, my last guess would be Linkin Park. I hate screaming in a song as well but their main singers have proven that they can sing and actually sing, as proven with The Messenger. Each album after their first (excluding the second) have been different; Hybrid Theory was a combination of rap and rock, Meteroa followed it with a much similar sound. Minutes to Midnight was a let down but attracted attention to the band which they evidently didn't want. Music on that album was a bit diverse in the sense that they had a straight up screaming song, they made a softer song with decent lyrics, and even one with a more upbeat rhythm that sounded a bit more like normal music you'd hear today on the radio. Their new album, a Thousand Suns, is fantastic at varying their music. Most of it introduces a new sound for them, it's much milder with literally no obvious screaming. To be honest the most screaming the band has on it is The Messenger. The also strayed away from their raprock style though threw one in just to prove they can pull it off, which in my opinion, they can. They tried a solely acoustic song which really worked for them but wasn't like them at all. They've painted a new picture of themselves and it's great. To sum it up, they like to experiment.

Hopefully I didn't put down your opinion in any way. This is my personal view.

Holy stuff. And I used to not like you much. Props to you, Duck.

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Hopefully I didn't put down your opinion in any way. This is my personal view.

I totally see where you are coming from, I never really looked at their new album, as I had checked them out quite a while ago, but from what you say I guess I have to go give it a listen.

You know, before, I tried to make these kinds of posts in the various religion threads that spring up on these forums.  Clearly, people are more willing to have a friendly discussion about music than religion.

Thanks to the both of you.