Author Topic: The Zeitgeist Movement - A better way for humanity  (Read 17360 times)

Ok seeing you are all too loving lazy here it is.

In other words, the system requires problems/constant consumer interest in order to work. The more people who have cancer in America, the better the economy due to expensive medical treatments. Needless to say, this generates an inherent disregard for human well being. The monetary arrangement, whether in the form of capitalism, communism, socialism, fascism, free-market or the like, is utterly detached from natural resources and thus human well-being. It is erroneously assumed that the incentive to seek money is also the incentive to help society. Nothing could be further from the truth. For example, every single product created by a corporation today is immediately inferior by design, for the market requirement to cut creation costs in favor of lowering the output "purchase price" to maintain a competitive edge, automatically reduces the quality of any given item by default. In other words it is impossible to create the “strategically best”, long lasting anything in our society and this translates into, again, outrageous amounts of resource waste. This is entirely and provably unsustainable as a social system and the world you are beginning to see emerge around you, with growing starvation, poverty, unemployment; along with the growing scarcity of water, food and arable land, is the result.

Oh my loving God, this is the most ironic and idiotic comment ever.

The rate of lung cancer is causing stress on our economy idiot.

The economy doesn't get better as cancer rates go up. These treatments impose taxes on society, causing richer individuals to lose capital, and therefore less investment in industry and less infrastructure, trade, circulation of goods, etc.

These guys have no idea when it comes to economics. I just discredited the whole argument right there.

Also, economic competition within industries helped create new technologies, with your so called "perfect society", nothing would get done at all.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 06:44:00 PM by Dodger »

If more people have cancer the more demand for the treatment and thus higher expenses for the treatment.

If more people have cancer the more demand for the treatment and thus higher expenses forthe treatment.
"YES, THAT IS HOW THE ECONOMY WORKS, THAT IS HOW CAPITALISM WORKS, WELCOME TO loving 5TH GRADE YOU INEPT handicap".

WELCOME TO GRADE SCHOOL ECONOMICS, MAY I TAKE YOUR COAT?

I have no problems with America's current government except the electoral college in the presidential voting system and that we live pretty boring lives

Congratulations yuki, you support a system that promotes immorality and exploitation!

I should beat you with a cross.

If more people have cancer the more demand for the treatment and thus higher expenses for the treatment.

wtf lol

That was a bit of a conservative view, but you don't loving get it.

More taxes on society = Less money in my pocket

Less money in my pocket = Less investment in other businesses

Less investment = Less infrastructure development, lowered trade, less curculation of goods, less technological development, etc.

Also, we are constantly looking for a cure to stop prevent/treat cancer effectively, which in turn can also turn up other advancements in the medical field. DERRRRRRPPPPPPPP

Congratulations yuki, you support a system that promotes immorality and exploitation!
If we used a barter system, you'd be trading your daughter for a cancer treatment.
Besides with the demand increase, doctors would be under stress, and the supplies required would become scarce and you'd need to raise the price

sactly,

the poor love to remind everyone of how the lower class run the economy by having jobs and doing services.
they forget how important it is for the upper class to invest in industry. overtaxing the rich takes that away. its not just "being greedy for the sake of rich people getting richer"

In a resource based economy, the treatment would be at no expense because more efficient treatments would be developed and made abundent. Using world resources would make this possible if handled efficiently.

In a resource based economy, the treatment would be at no expense because more efficient treatments would be developed and made abundent. Using world resources would make this possible if handled efficiently.

Your society would not advance as quickly as ours technologically because there is no economic competition. Also, your "Government" can easily mishandle these resources or handle them unfairly if the wrong people come into power. I'm sure the creator of this movement is one of them.

Congratulations yuki, you support a system that promotes immorality and exploitation!

I should beat you with a cross.
No, I don't. The system doesn't promote positive or negative, people do. The system works just fine, people are the problem. People will always be greedy and exploit the system, so they raise prices to make more money when demand is higher. You can't say a system that works is flawed because people are greedy, that's loving stupid, and so are you.
In a resource based economy, the treatment would be at no expense because more efficient treatments would be developed and made abundent. Using world resources would make this possible if handled efficiently.
Dodger is correct. Economic competition is what drives the need for development. Why do you think we went to the moon? Competition, to beat the Russians. Competition is how the world advances.

The problem is that your "system" absolutely relies on EVERYONE having the same philosophy and ideologies, and that's not going to happen seeing as we aren't robots, we're people. Our opinions differ. Welcome to humanity.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 06:54:20 PM by yuki »

Your society would not advance as quickly as ours technologically because there is no economic competition.

I'm glad you brought that up.

If there is no competition our incentives don't disappear they simply change.

When you were a child you didn't require incentive to explore or createm, did you?

Also, this system would not get an "ok" with religion because you are trying to unify the world, and many theologians see that as an act of the anti-Christ. You just lost a billion+ supporters.



If there is no competition our incentives don't disappear they simply change.

Into what, might I ask.