I posted it mostley because of Bisjac, I thought it wasn't all that great myself, still its my best on retail so far, luckily this thread hasn't gotten off topic or flamed yet, but I know after I say this someones gonna pick a fight or hijack it, anyway thanks for the comments, and yeah when I went to the IRK server it was almost completley destroyed cause of a DM that happened earlier, luckily I have the save with it complete and called the server one "ruins" of it.