The Zeitgeist Movement

[Joeboy]

Coming off of the electrical grid would mean no electricity unless your house is being run by about 20 noisy generators in the back garden.

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[Rekuddo]

@Rekuddo:
"Why? People are intelligent enough to figure out what their political beliefs are"
They make money when people watch them. It's not about their being biased, and the Zeitgeist movement is not saying boycott news altogether.

I watch both sides of the news to get both opinions, a lot of people do this it's interesting I was following both Liberal and Conservative newspapers during the Egyptian protests, it's interesting to see what both sides have to say.

"So we're going back in time? You do realize monopolies held over power companies are a very good idea that way you don't have other companies equipment interfering with other companies and have a forgeted up infrastructure."
1. No, we are not going back in time. That is about reducing dependence on the electric companies.
2. There is not a monopoly on energy in the United States.

Monopolies in states, not the total country. Such as I live in Pennsylvania, in southwestern Pennsylvania we use Allegheny power, they have a monopoly over southwest Pennsylvania. Reducing dependence on electric companies? That makes no sense everyone's still going to rely on them for energy, what about hospitals? Schools? public buildings?

"Why? The military is a extremely good choice for a career path for a lot of people and works for them."
1. If you had watched/read Addendum, it would give you a very good idea why.
2. How is the military an "extremely good choice for a career path"?

My family is a military family, nearly everyone of my family members have been in the military, they really enjoy it and continue to do it, even my family members who are retired wish they could still be in, the military has a lot of benefits, the military however is not for a lot of people, it takes dedication.

"The banks are not owned by the government. this is a joke, banks are designed to protect our money. its a business"
1. This is obvious.
2. Banks are designed to protect their own money and make money for the people it employs and for the bank company itself. Interest.

Yes that's why everyone in their right mind has a bank account.

I'm not going to listen to a 15 year old who hardly has any real experiences in the real world with politics explain to me why a stupid idea is better for the people of this country.

[Kevdude]

Coming off of the electrical grid would mean no electricity unless your house is being run by about 20 noisy generators in the back garden.

Hamsters, lots of them

[LoserHero]

All you say is what Zeitgiest is not rather than what it is, which is a broken idea. Its not a very effective argument on your part. We bring up valid points and you say "that's not what it's about!" well why dont you tell us what you think it's about. Zeitgiest said our government is corrupt, and that our current institutions will never work. You believe quite heavily in this so saying "I never said that but they are so right" is basically saying what they said.

[Joeboy]

And yeah, the schools, hospitals and other public buildings.

What will run them?

That would be alot of noisy generators.

[LoserHero]

And yeah, the schools, hospitals and other public buildings.

What will run them?

That would be alot of noisy generators.

They proposed cleaner energy for this. Geothermal energy, solar energy, wind energy, tidal energy, and oceanic wave energy. The bigger question is if we eliminate all these important institutions who will run the schools? Machines? Even the hospitals.. Machines? They strongy imply that due to our current system we could never solve issues within our own laws and that is horse stuff. They say we never ask scientists to come up with new ways to make energy yet they listed all of which we helped fund in order to find such energy replacements in the first place.

[Joeboy]

We have pretty much solved almost everything, it's just that the governments need money. So they postpone these so that they become 'New discoveries' when they have had their fill on our money.

[yuki]

I'm not going to listen to a 15 year old who hardly has any real experiences in the real world with politics explain to me why a stupid idea is better for the people of this country.

DA
LISTEN TO ZAITSEV.

[Rekuddo]

DA
LISTEN TO ZAITSEV.

You'll get us caught, comrade commissar!

[nickbond1]

someone finished playing Deus Ex 2 and got the J.C. Denton ending didn't they?

[Dodger]

Here's a few questions I'd like answered:

1. How are you going to eliminate every damn religion ever made and expect everyone to be ok with it?

2. What will happen when someone tries to control other people and exploit resources?

3. How are you going to apply this to every loving country on earth? Terrorists, Rich Sultans, and certain country governments dislike our globalization of our current economy, so you are going to forcibly take resources from them, redistribute them to poor lazy ass people, and take away their religion also?

4. Who is going to stabilize this system and keep it free of corruption while also keeping resources and moral in check?

[Rekuddo]

Here's a few questions I'd like answered:

1. How are you going to eliminate every damn religion ever made and expect everyone to be ok with it?

2. What will happen when someone tries to control other people and exploit resources?

3. How are you going to apply this to every loving country on earth? Terrorists, Rich Sultans, and certain country governments dislike our globalization of our current economy, so you are going to forcibly take resources from them, redistribute them to poor lazy ass people, and take away their religion also?

4. Who is going to stabilize this system and keep it free of corruption while also keeping resources and moral in check?

It's impossible, but a way that you would come close is to eliminate individual people's freedom. Which is why communism does not work in large populations. It could work if the human emotion called "Greed" never existed. But it does work in very, very small communities, such as Hippie communes, everyone has the same ideals so therefore it works.

[Tyrone]

Your kidding me right? Do you even live in America? Most of the world is pissed at us no doubt, and if they had the chance to take us off the high throne we sit in, i bet every single country would take that chance. Your not even thinking when you post, you think we are protected by some sort of magical bubble, but i assure you my "friend", we most certainly are not. Your movement utterly makes no sense, and endangers and risks the well being of a lot of people; that is if it were ever put into an act, which i doubt will ever happen.

[ZB]

There is some much wrong with this that I can't even begin to start ( but if you're really so curious, I can go in to detail).

Also, let me explain the monetary system.
So think of everything that can be purchased. Now give each thing a point value. now, name these points "dollars" or "shillings" or 'pounds" or whatever you may please. Now, give each point a physical entity. Now, instead of exchanging an item of yours for every purchase you make, exchange points. You get what you want and the person you do trade with gains more points with which they can trade. Whenever you (or, perhaps, the big group in which you work) give away something you (or the group you work in, who will give some of these points to you) gain more of these points.
Inflation happens when more of these physical entities for the points are produced, thus, each person gets more. This causes each single point to have more value. Now, everyone has more points, but the same buying power.

This is, as best as I can put it, a monetary system. Just points assigned to each item.

[Amade]

@Rekuddo:
"I watch both sides of the news to get both opinions, a lot of people do this it's interesting I was following both Liberal and Conservative newspapers during the Egyptian protests, it's interesting to see what both sides have to say."
There are many biased non-major news sources.

"Monopolies in states, not the total country. Such as I live in Pennsylvania, in southwestern Pennsylvania we use Allegheny power, they have a monopoly over southwest Pennsylvania. Reducing dependence on electric companies? That makes no sense everyone's still going to rely on them for energy, what about hospitals? Schools? public buildings?"
The existence of monopolies is irrelevant anyway, and I said reduce, not eliminate.

"My family is a military family, nearly everyone of my family members have been in the military, they really enjoy it and continue to do it, even my family members who are retired wish they could still be in, the military has a lot of benefits, the military however is not for a lot of people, it takes dedication."
This does not even begin to explain how the military is a "great choice for a career path," what your family does is irrelevant.

"Yes that's why everyone in their right mind has a bank account."
Do remember that the Zeitgeist movement encourages boycotting the fed cartel, not all banks.

"I'm not going to listen to a 15 year old who hardly has any real experiences in the real world with politics explain to me why a stupid idea is better for the people of this country."
1. Clearly, you are listening to me.
2. My age has nothing to do with this discussion, nor does yours or anyone else's.
3. Addendum explains this "stupid idea" rather nicely.

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Which nations would invade the US again? For what reason would they do so? Are you aware we're talking about this on a global scale?

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Don't worry, we know how the monetary system works (and clearly, better than you do). Watch (or read) the first 10 minutes or so of Addendum.