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Intel or AMD?

Intel
AMD
They're the same.

Author Topic: Intel vs. AMD (School Report involved)  (Read 1333 times)

Well, they should stop being strict like that. A locked core can't hurt anybody and it brings profits even though it's a defective processor.
They're not being strict probably, they just choose not to market locked-core-processors.  Because there are actually workarounds to unlock a locked core in an AMD processor (in some cases, the locked core is just locked for no reason, only to sell it as a triple-core or something), Intel probably just doesn't want to bother with it.

Regardless, I still prefer Intel over AMD.

I'm gonna get a AMD processor when i'm building a PC, and I'm gonna do one of those workarounds to see if I got a extra core that works :O

If you buy a tri-core processor from AMD you can unlock the 4th core.
It's made as a quad core then locked. I guess it has to go by 2 and you can't just have a single core. I don't really know.

Intel - more power overall
AMD - way more power per dollar you spend
Just pick the one that fits your needs.

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If you buy a tri-core processor from AMD you can unlock the 4th core.
It's made as a quad core then locked. I guess it has to go by 2 and you can't just have a single core. I don't really know.
Computers in general are based on powers of 2.
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, etc.

There's really no such thing as an actual tri-core, with literally ONLY three physical cores.  That's why we have single cores, dual cores, quad cores but no "real" triple cores.

I agree with Nick, taking a creation that didn't work out and rebranding it is a quality-less trick that, from a consumer perspective, isn't cool.

I prefer intel because the future shop guy said this computer was good.
and he was right.

Whenever AMD has a defective processor, what they do with it is determined by how bad the problem is.  Faulty core in a quad core?  Lock the broken core and sell it as a triple-core (why Intel doesn't even make triple cores like AMD).  Two cores broken in quad core?  Lock them both and sell as dual core.  If something else is faulty within the processor, though, they usually will also melt it down and re-use the materials.
This is actually a good thing, because it means you can mass produce high quality processors and lock down defective cores rather than operating two different assembly lines for different products. It keeps prices down for consumers, it wastes less material, and it means that if you buy a three core processor there's a chance you can unlock it and get a fully working core - it's hit or miss though. I'm not really qualified to make any kind of statement on quality, but if Intel does not do this as well, then part of the premium you pay on their processors is them passing on the extra cost of operating extra assembly lines.

I doubt anybody recycles the wafers, they're grown from crystals and sand isn't exactly expensive enough to validate recycling it. I've seen manufactures just throw out wafers before (I have two 12" sitting in my basement as I speak), and I'd estimate that these things probably cost anywhere between 200 and 1000 dollars apiece. Manufacturers can test if a processor is defective or not before it even gets cut off the wafer.

I agree with Nick, taking a creation that didn't work out and rebranding it is a quality-less trick that, from a consumer perspective, isn't cool.
As I mentioned before, it's actually in your favor. It's not like they're lying to you, it's a perfectly functioning 3 core processor that passed quality assurance, it's just got an extra bit of useless silicon attached to it.

EDIT:
Computers in general are based on powers of 2.
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, etc.

There's really no such thing as an actual tri-core, with literally ONLY three physical cores.  That's why we have single cores, dual cores, quad cores but no "real" triple cores.
I doubt there is a technical reason that tri-core processors are less common than the rest, it's probably just more cost effective to resell quad core processors with a core deactivated. Also, as an example of a real triple core processor, the Xenon processor used in the Xbox 360 actually physically has 3 cores on the die.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 09:22:28 PM by Wedge »

Oh really?  The Xenon in the 360 is an actual pure three-core processor?

AMD is better, It last longer and its good for the price.

Intel is Horrible and they suck and its extreme money for a good one

EDIT: I have an AMD is my Gaming computer right now :o
Everything TehZeno said is stupid.

Go away.

The fact is: You can't really relate both.

Intel currently has the strongest processors, but in terms of quality and clock speed among normal models, they are practically the same. The only difference is AMD uses cheaper parts, and it doesn't really take away from the quality. An example: The tri-core CPU.

Though monetary gain isn't related with the quality of the product, in which case Intel is better.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 10:32:02 PM by SeventhSandwich »

Over the years, AMD have really improved on both their processors and graphics cards compared to their counterparts.

If price isn't an issue than intel/nvidia is always the choice, but when you need more power for cheaper it's always amd.

I have actually heard that the technical differences between AMD and Intel's processor are so slim that it really falls to personal preference and to say "AMD is Bettur bcoz it cotstz less" or "Intels is bettir bcoz it costs more" is kind of foolish.

AMD has great value for money, their top-end processor is about 60% performance of Intels, but they are much cheaper in terms of performance/dollar.
However, there was an interesting review by Tom's Hardware that had performance comparisons between a computer with an Intel 970X with 2 x 460GTX compared to an AMD 1055T with 2 x 480GTX which has much more graphics power than the former, but however came back with lower performance.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/newegg-combo-toms-hardware,2753.html