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 Sometimes I wish there was a god.
You see, the story of Jesus evolved from Egyptian scripts and legends to Jewish scrolls. Now people know him in the bible as the savior for some strange reason.

 There were three recorded story characters in history that were very similar to Jesus. They had the virgin mother, the disciples; instead the Jewish text named them all brothers.  

 And the funny thing is no Roman or other historic record keepers ever wrote about this Jesus guy. Edit: Not that I know of.

 Do any of you understand why legends and stories like this exist?
They were forged by philosophers in order to create a basis for problem solving needs and life styles people would of considered. They hold written sub-messages and meanings.
Though most people may hold an oblique understanding of them, the message is still there. It may be something different, you might not like, or it differs from your values it is still there.


I'll name you some flaws with 'creation'.

 First off it took 6 days to create the heaven, and the Earth.

 In the bible it mentions that a day for a god is a thousand years.
 So 6,000 years were taken to forge the universe and the Earth.

 It took only took 1,000 years for the universe to be completed.
 And 5,000 years for the Earth to be accomplished.

 Now with the combination of so many planets, stars, galaxies, and solar systems the attention to detail greatly outnumbers the attention detail to Earth.
 
 This also brings up the timeline of the biblical theory of how long we existed. It said it was around 12,000 years from the beginning.

 That means god spent half of that time creating everything and we already existed in the midst of it.
 
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Some people believe in God because they want to. Some because they have since they were little. And some (such as my teacher) have been moved, and experienced something great, that cannot be explained except through God.

Sometimes I wish there was a god.
You see, the story of Jesus evolved from Egyptian scripts and legends to Jewish scrolls. Now people know him in the bible as the savior for some strange reason.

 There were three recorded story characters in history that were very similar to Jesus. They had the virgin mother, the disciples; instead the Jewish text named them all brothers.  

 And the funny thing is no Roman or other historic record keepers ever wrote about this Jesus guy.


 Do any of you understand why legends and stories like this exist?
They were forged by philosophers in order to create a basis for problem solving needs and life styles people would of considered. They hold written sub-messages and meanings.
Though most people may hold an oblique understanding of them, the message is still there. It may be something different, you might not like, or it differs from your values it is still there.

  
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Cornelius Tacitus:

Tacitus lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as the greatest historian of Rome, noted for his integrity and moral uprightness. His most famous works are the Annals and the Histories. The Annals relate the historical narrative from Augustus’ death in A.D.14 to Nero’s death in A.D. 68. The Histories begin their narrative after Nero’s death and finish with Domitian’s death in A.D. 96. In his section describing Nero’s decision to blame the fire of Rome on the Christians, Tacitus affirms that the founder of Christianity, a man he calls Chrestus (a common misspelling of Christ, which was Jesus’ surname), was executed by Pilate, the procurator of Judea during the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberias. Tacitus was hostile to Christianity because in the same paragraph he describes Christus’ or Christ’s death, he describes Christianity as a pernicious superstition. It would have therefore been in his interests to declare that Jesus had never existed, but he did not, and perhaps he did not because he could not without betraying the historical record.

Suetonius:
Suetonius was a Roman historian and a court official in Emperor Hadrian’s government. In his Life of Claudius he refers to Claudius expelling Jews from Rome on account of their activities on behalf of a man Suetonius calls Chrestus [another misspelling of Christus or Christ].

Thallus and Phlegon:
Both were ancient historians and both confirmed the fact that the land went dark when Jesus was crucified. This parallels what the Bible said happened when Jesus died.

Mara Bar-Serapion:
Some time after 70 A.D., Mara Bar-Sarapion, who was probably a Stoic philosopher, wrote a letter to his son in which he describes how the Jews executed their King. Claiming to be a king was one of the charges the religious authorities used to scare Pontius Pilate into agreeing to execute Jesus.

Josephus:
Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born in either 37 or 38 AD and died some time after 100 AD. He wrote the Jewish Antiquites and in one famous passage described Jesus as a wise man, a doer of wonderful works and calls him the Christ. He also affirmed that Jesus was executed by Pilate and actually rose from the dead!

I disagree strongly with that bolded part right there

So is this a Christian topic? 'Cuz the question is "Do you believe in god" not "Do you believe in a god"


Also: PARADOX

Let's set 2 standards right now:

1: According to the bible, God and Satan are arch-nemesis (idk how to pluralize that word..)
2: According to the bible, God is all powerful, capable of doing everything and anything.

So, if God is all powerful, why doesn't he just vanquish Satan and all evil? He doesn't which implies that God and Satan are pals. But they are arch-nemesis. But God is all powerful so why doesn't he just vanquish satan and all evil.

See where I'm going?


Another one!!1

In God's eyes we are all his children. And he sent his only son, his only son down to help us. So in God's eyes we are just a bunch of girls/women.
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 I'll name you some flaws with 'creation'.

 First off it took 6 days to create the heaven, and the Earth.

 In the bible it mentions that a day for a god is a thousand years.
 So 6,000 years were taken to forge the universe and the Earth.


 
catholics interpret that as putting that into terms that would be easy for people to understand at the time.
but in reality, we believe that god doesn't follow the rules of time, you know what i'm saying?

like, a day to god could be a second or a billion years

I disagree strongly with that bolded part right there
catholics interpret that as putting that into terms that would be easy for people to understand at the time.
but in reality, we believe that god doesn't follow the rules of time, you know what i'm saying?

like, a day to god could be a second or a billion years

 I haven't heard of any of those. :o

 Anyways, for me to become Christian again I'll need to see some great events come to life as he predicted. The great wars and earthquakes part. And when Jesus comes down with his horse killing billions of non-believers that either never got the message or already were praying to their gods who threatens them of suffering if not worshiped.

Agnosticism is the only thing that makes sense to me. We can't prove god exists, but we also can't disprove it.

I personally like to believe that there is something more. I don't feel like rotting in a hole for all eternity after I die.

Agnosticism is the only thing that makes sense to me. We can't prove god exists, but we also can't disprove it.

I personally like to believe that there is something more. I don't feel like rotting in a hole for all eternity after I die.

 Well if it's true then you wouldn't really care about rotting in a hole when dead  :cookieMonster:

Well if it's true then you wouldn't really care about rotting in a hole when dead  :cookieMonster:

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In God's eyes we are all his children. And he sent his only son, his only son down to help us. So in God's eyes we are just a bunch of girls/women.

Ikr... Then...wait... if were all females...then... OH stuff


 First off it took 6 days to create the heaven, and the Earth.

 In the bible it mentions that a day for a god is a thousand years.
 So 6,000 years were taken to forge the universe and the Earth
 
The 1 day is 1,000 years is a figure of speech. The Bible says that a day is morning and night. (24 hours) God spent more time making earth because it was His special planet. :D

there is no such thing as a smart religious person?
I said typically. Whether you believe it or not it's true. And again, there is a reason for it.

Nevermind this comment, I was going to say something but nvm.

 I'm starting to understand why god didn't want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of Knowledge.  :cookieMonster:

I'm starting to understand why god didn't want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of Knowledge.  :cookieMonster:
um yeah
the bible never says that it's the tree of knowledge
just says it's a fruit thats forbidden


(but catholics don't exactly believe adam and eve to the word)