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We can barley prove if William Shakespeare existed.
I don't know where the hell you pulled that from.

Can you provide us with such proof?


But you can't because there is no proof.
Prove evolution.

Agnostic weak atheist.

Prove evolution.
You are 14.

This is going to go really badly for you.


Tom

I don't know where the hell you pulled that from.
There are a few people who believe that people just wrote under the name of Shakespeare. If he exist or not, we don't really know much about him.

There are a few people who believe that people just wrote under the name of Shakespeare. If he exist or not, we don't really know much about him.
There are a few people who believe that the core of the moon is made of cheese. That doesn't give any credibility to the claim.

Really? "A few people"? You're not even sourcing where you've read this bullstuff.

Prove evolution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

It's a scientific fact. Go to a loving museum or read a book that isn't the bible.
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Tom

Really? "A few people"? You're not even sourcing where you've read this bullstuff.
Heard about it from someone at school so I looked it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question

I think Christianity/religion in general is a "tool" used to explain what the human mind can't explain with logic. But religion has become more and more obsolete with improved science.
So I find it very hard to believe many of the things most religions preach. It just crashes with fundamental scientific beliefs. I mean: walking on water, turning water to wine, waking the dead... that sounds like something from Harry Potter.

Can you provide us with such proof?


But you can't because there is no proof.
You just don't get it do you... Apparently EVERYTHING has to have proof to it.

First off, its not like its on video. Since it WAS 2011 years ago. No electricity, nor photograph. I could just tell you to go to Rome, and see the history. But since your just a kid, and too young to even go anywhere, that will never happen.

Jesus did say, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Your predictable answer: "Is there proof on him saying that"
My answer: "How will I ever catch that in recording? Seriously? You just need to stay close to him, and do good, (And Im serious), a lot good things happen in your life. Im not just pulling crap off here, this is for true.
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Christianity is a relgion based on previous religions such as the religion of ancient Egypt and is also based on the Zodiac.

You just don't get it do you... Apparently EVERYTHING has to have proof to it.
Proof is the tool of science. Science is what has built us to what our race is today. So yes, pushing for proof is fair.


Can you provide us with such proof?


But you can't because there is no proof.

5 proofs that you can logically assume that there is a god:

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1 - FIRST MOVER: Some things are in motion, anything moved is moved by another, and there can't be an infinite series of movers. So there must be a first mover (a mover that isn't itself moved by another). This is God.

2 - FIRST CAUSE: Some things are caused, anything caused is caused by another, and there can't be an infinite series of causes. So there must be a first cause (a cause that isn't itself caused by another). This is God.

3 - NECESSARY BEING: Every contingent being at some time fails to exist. So if everything were contingent, then at some time there would have been nothing -- and so there would be nothing now -- which is clearly false. So not everything is contingent. So there is a necessary being. This is God.

4 - GREATEST BEING: Some things are greater than others. Whatever is great to any degree gets its greatness from that which is the greatest. So there is a greatest being, which is the source of all greatness. This is God.

5 - INTELLIGENT DESIGNER: Many things in the world that lack intelligence act for an end. Whatever acts for an end must be directed by an intelligent being. So the world must have an intelligent designer. This is God.

Historians who said that Jesus existed:
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Cornelius Tacitus:

Tacitus lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as the greatest historian of Rome, noted for his integrity and moral uprightness. His most famous works are the Annals and the Histories. The Annals relate the historical narrative from Augustus’ death in A.D.14 to Nero’s death in A.D. 68. The Histories begin their narrative after Nero’s death and finish with Domitian’s death in A.D. 96. In his section describing Nero’s decision to blame the fire of Rome on the Christians, Tacitus affirms that the founder of Christianity, a man he calls Chrestus (a common misspelling of Christ, which was Jesus’ surname), was executed by Pilate, the procurator of Judea during the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberias. Tacitus was hostile to Christianity because in the same paragraph he describes Christus’ or Christ’s death, he describes Christianity as a pernicious superstition. It would have therefore been in his interests to declare that Jesus had never existed, but he did not, and perhaps he did not because he could not without betraying the historical record.

Suetonius:
Suetonius was a Roman historian and a court official in Emperor Hadrian’s government. In his Life of Claudius he refers to Claudius expelling Jews from Rome on account of their activities on behalf of a man Suetonius calls Chrestus [another misspelling of Christus or Christ].

Thallus and Phlegon:
Both were ancient historians and both confirmed the fact that the land went dark when Jesus was crucified. This parallels what the Bible said happened when Jesus died.

Mara Bar-Serapion:
Some time after 70 A.D., Mara Bar-Sarapion, who was probably a Stoic philosopher, wrote a letter to his son in which he describes how the Jews executed their King. Claiming to be a king was one of the charges the religious authorities used to scare Pontius Pilate into agreeing to execute Jesus.

Josephus:
Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born in either 37 or 38 AD and died some time after 100 AD. He wrote the Jewish Antiquites and in one famous passage described Jesus as a wise man, a doer of wonderful works and calls him the Christ. He also affirmed that Jesus was executed by Pilate and actually rose from the dead!

Christianity is a relgion based on previous religions such as the religion of ancient Egypt and is also based on the Zodiac.
correlation does not equal causation