Author Topic: Frenchfrie - "Shall your terrible story be burned for loving ever."  (Read 2922 times)

As many of you may know, I started a topic in Creativity being curious about what others think about my writing. It was about Fallout: New Vegas, and I wanted all of it based on the real storyline. It was, I admit, nowhere near my best writing. I dont do game writing good at all. But I wanted some feedback.

Then comes along Sirrus. He was very mean, but what he stated was the truth, so I understood. Then comes along our guy Frenchfrie. . .

The first thing he says, I thought he was just trying to be a minour troll. That, or just be a smartass.
The first excerpt made me want to vomit all over my laptop it was so bad. so no.
I wasnt angry at all. I just read this, ignored it, and moved on.

Next, he got even worse.
Just stop loving writing. You cant even write an illiterate piece of stuff your excerpts are worse than that for godsakes.
I have no comment. You can see how bad this is getting. Again, read, ignored, moved on.

Here's where I was started getting frusturated.
I support Sirrus fully, and your  "I wasn't trying to edit"  reply was absolutely handicapped. The biggest steps in the writing process are making a rough draft, then editing and revising. If you did not know that and tried to write you will never have a true successful writing career, that also backs up Sirrus as you being a lazy illiterate forget who cuts corners in the writing process.
As you can see, he isnt giving any sort of critCIAm, nothing anywhere near what Sirrus stated. This is clearly just being a pure richard.
More, you may ask?
No he should never continue or type another fictional sentence. And he will most likely never be able to better his writing.
I felt this was entirely unnecessary, and not only did he still fail to give any critCIAm, he got even worse than the last post.

I cant put in words how frusturated this makes me. With alot of people, I have no respect, but I thought I might point out that there is yet another worthless piece of stuff on the Forums (but that isn't new, right..?). I know he's probably gonna try to back his stuff up on this topic if he ever notices it, but good luck to him.

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Double poast.

I forgot to add in the PM he sent me after I locked the Creativity topic when I decided I was through with him, which is where the title of this Drama came from.
Thank god you locked your failure of a thread. Shall your terrible story be buried for loving ever.

Sounds like he just really, really hated your story. Is nonconstructive criticism bannable?

Sounds like he just really, really hated your story. Is nonconstructive criticism bannable?
I'm not sure, but that, to me, sounded like 1 year's worth of minour raging mashed into a few posts by a single dumbass.

Sounds like he just really, really hated your story. Is nonconstructive criticism bannable?
It really should be.

That PM was unnecessary. I think you can actually report him for that.

That PM was unnecessary. I think you can actually report him for that.
I was already thinking about it.

My views on nonconstructive criticism:

Don't make it destructive. He could at least point out how he "hated" your story.

Don't make it destructive. He could at least point out how he "hated" your story.

I too would hate a story if it made me vomit all over my keyboard. Imagine the mess you'd have to clean up.

Then comes along Sirrus. He was very mean, but what he stated was the truth, so I understood. Then comes along our guy Frenchfrie. . .

Nothing he said was mean.
It was blunt criticism, but not harsh.

My views on nonconstructive criticism:

Don't make it destructive. He could at least point out how he "hated" your story.
Then it wouldn't be nonconstructive criticism.
It would become constructive.

I too would hate a story if it made me vomit all over my keyboard. Imagine the mess you'd have to clean up.
o u

Then it wouldn't be nonconstructive criticism.
It would become constructive.
How about we call it my views on "nonconstructive but eventually turns out to be constructive criticism:" instead?

Have you considered the possibility that maybe you're just not a good writer because, you know, you're 11 or 12?

I was there too, I thought I was a hot stuff writer because I could and I did string together a couple pages worth of fiction, but the truth is if you take ten big, honest steps back while comparing your work to others' work RIGHT NOW, or look back at your work in a couple of years, you'll realize that it really does suck, and if you're serious AT ALL about this, then you'll continue working on it, continue reading others' work, continue developing your own work, continue internalizing what makes a story good so that you just end up unconsciously turning out good stuff. That's the only way to not get pounced on, and the only way to make good writing.

Ultimately, I'm convinced that good writing can only come from the pure gut instinct of a writer. Good writing comes when a writer develops a unique voice, effortlessly writes with the three most important things in writing: clarity, conciseness and vigor, and eliminates cliches from their writing. This only comes after much time spent reading around, and then practicing your own writing, and it definitely does not happen at the age of 12. Now, good writing becomes great or even outstanding writing when you take already good kind of stream of consciousness stuff and refine it. Meticulously make sure everything is consistent, flows well, has good energy, and just make sure it's spotless, and then you have great writing.

I hope that helps. Stop whining about people not pusillanimous individualfooting around the fact that you don't write well. Now, to say you should never touch a pen again and personally attack you? That's kind of a richard move, but honestly, cry some more and then suck it up. It's not constructive to anyone to whine.

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And have you taken the time to think about that this has nothing to do with my writing? It was on that topic sure, but my point is that he didnt give any critCIAm. He just came in immediately insulting it all, no tips, help, nothing. Now stop and think before you leave freakishly big walls of text.