All Powerful Monotheistic God vs Atheism

[ArchAngel]

what the forget are you people seriously arguing on this really obvious troll thread?
god damn

So everything dealing with religion and sensitive topics is a troll thread? Like your logic buddy.

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[Iceball3]

If it can make a wall, can't it climb it's own wall? If God can make it I am pretty sure the creator can climb it.

Depends if Example makes it so that they can climb it. If they're able to do "everything", then they cannot design it to be unclimbable to themself, wheras a simple engineer could make a really tall wall which they can't really climb themselves.
Which in a way, being able to do anything means you're not unable to make it so you can't do something, a simple task ones who aren't omnipotent have easily figured out.

[Doorman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence_paradox


This is what you are talking about?


Is the number 1 actually Number 1?
Are the colors of oranges actually Orange?


Paradoxical questions are paradox, but no answer will quench  the question. Hence the question is fruitless.

Yes, and that question pertains to this paradox question. So, reasoning dictates that something that can do anything is a paradox. Or something like that. Wouldn't you agree?

First post an argument-prone religious topic? Signature shows that you're a Kristian Konversion Krusader?

My deduction?
*monocle*

Troll account

Obviously:

I have another account here.

[Anti-Block]

Something as heavily opinionated and belief-based as religion can be argued for centuries.
I fail to see why people even bother to argue it anyway.

[ArchAngel]

Yes, and that question pertains to this paradox question. So, reasoning dictates that something that can do anything is a paradox. Or something like that. Wouldn't you agree?
Obviously:

If you  were to ask, "Can God terminate His own existence?" the answer is that the divine omnipotence does not relate to this; it is intrinsically impossible, for the divine nature necessarily entails the divine perfections, of which Being is one. It is impossible that God could cease to have this perfection or any other, for otherwise He would not be God.

[ArchAngel]

Something as heavily opinionated and belief-based as religion can be argued for centuries.
I fail to see why people even bother to argue it anyway.

Why do humans argue? To Progress Humanity.

[Doorman]

If you  were to ask, "Can God terminate His own existence?" the answer is that the divine omnipotence does not relate to this; it is intrinsically impossible, for the divine nature necessarily entails the divine perfections, of which Being is one. It is impossible that God could cease to have this perfection or any other, for otherwise He would not be God.

But, if the qualifications for a god were to be all knowing and all powerful, wouldn't that entail that it can do anything? Even limit itself, which would be a paradox?

[Bisjac]

you dont want people to discuss any actual religions, but you speak of "god" as a very specific way. from a specific faith

breakin your own rules there

[ArchAngel]

But, if the qualifications for a god were to be all knowing and all powerful, wouldn't that entail that it can do anything? Even limit itself, which would be a paradox?

We just went over that.

[Doorman]

you dont want people to discuss any actual religions, but you speak of "god" as a very specific way. from a specific faith

breakin your own rules there

I pointed this out earlier, but he seems to have ignored it.

Please, to stay true to what you stated before, don't capitalize the word "God." It makes it seem that you are talking about Yahweh.

Edit:

We just went over that.

Yes, we have. But, that paradox is one thing that limits my belief in a god. Because, if it contradicts it self through it's own being, how can it exist?

[Iceball3]

But Example needs to be powerful enough to terminate itself to achieve this... "Perfection". Considering how mortals cannot it so easily compared to Example just makes it all the less impressive to be Example, because that is another thing it cannot do.

Why do humans argue? To Progress Humanity.

Aheh, nah. It's because boredom. Nothing like constant foraging for food to keep us busy anymore so we hd to find something to do involving conflict.

[ArchAngel]

I pointed this out earlier, but he seems to have ignored it.

Like I said we are talking about a all powerful God that created the universe and monitors it or does not monitor it.

[.::Taboo::.]

ugh when are you friends going learn that making these threads just gets all the christcigarettes trampled.

[ArchAngel]

ugh when are you friends going learn that making these threads just gets all the christcigarettes trampled.

Apparently belief in God = you being a Christian. Nice logic buddy...

[Bisjac]

all gods are the same. they take money at one point.