Your Stance on Laws (Or punishment); Today's Topic: Abortions

[asablief]

yeah if you're just gonna spew out stuff and say "nice one" every time someone makes a point then you might as well get the forget out

"you're stupid, dumb, wrong and im right" and "nope" isn't a strong point.

and EDIT: If you're going to sit here and make those remarks YOU should get the forget out.

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[Nymethus]

"you're stupid, dumb, wrong and I'm right" and "nope" isn't a strong point.

I only said one of those and that was because you were being such a richard about it.

[asablief]

I only said one of those and that was because you were being such a richard about it.

good to know
we all have opinions.

[Nymethus]

good to know
we all have opinions.

and then I have my points and you have your illogical ones

[asablief]

and then I have my points and you have your illogical ones

I could say the exact same thing but

we all have opinions.

still applies.

[Nymethus]

I could say the exact same thing

Thing is you'd be wrong, again.
I believe one of your points was that you want some guy dead so you can feel good about it.
Now, putting your wish above another person's life isn't very logical now, is it?

[stuntman021]

You've made your point, but either way, they deserve a life sentence in prison. I'm not going to have someone leave prison early just because he/she has apparently become good now.

if i've made my point, then why are you still clutching to your stuffty beliefs?

So you can't exactly trust in this "rehabilitation" stuff can you?
Let me tell you something, therapy is a bunch of nonsensical bullstuff. Nobody knows how someone else's mind work except for that person.nice one

i said IF
there will be mistakes made, yes, but the body count at the end will still be lower than the body count if you just executed all criminals
if nobody knows how someone's mind works except that person, how is therapy a respected profession?

[dkamm65]

America focuses on punishment rather than rehabilitation.
Norway focuses on rehabilitation rather than punishment.

America has 5 intentional homicides per 100,000 people.
Norway has 0.6 intentional homicides per 100,000 people.

America's incarceration rate in 2009: 743 out of 100,000 people.
Norway's incarceration rate in 2009: 71 out of 100,000 people.

America's recidivism rate is 60%.
Norway's recidivism rate is 20%.

[stuntman021]

America focuses on punishment rather than rehabilitation.
Norway focuses on rehabilitation rather than punishment.

America has 5 intentional homicides per 100,000 people.
Norway has 0.6 intentional homicides per 100,000 people.

America's incarceration rate in 2009: 743 out of 100,000 people.
Norway's incarceration rate in 2009: 71 out of 100,000 people.

America's recidivism rate is 60%.
Norway's recidivism rate is 20%.

should probably post a source for those statistics

[asablief]

Thing is you'd be wrong, again.
I believe one of your points was that you want some guy dead so you can feel good about it.
Now, putting your wish above another person's life isn't very logical now, is it?

I am no longer inclined to argue with you because all you do is try to say how wrong I am with no base.

if nobody knows how someone's mind works except that person, how is therapy a respected profession?

lol, respected by who exactly?

[stuntman021]

I am no longer inclined to argue with you because all you do is try to say how wrong I am with no base.lol, respected by who exactly?

it's taught in colleges, and therapists make a good sum of money. i'd count that as respected

[Hiiro326]

Do you believe Capital Punishment (aka, the death sentence) should be allowed?

I do. But being death and all, you shouldn't just hand it out willy-nilly, I think only murderers and terrorists deserve it. I've seen people talk about whether or not rapists should get it, but I believe they shouldn't. Sure, rape is something that scars people for life sometimes, but at least they didn't kill you. I guess severe treason can also get you the ticket to hell through Capital Punishment too.

EDIT: But to get executed, they need to be certain you committed the crime. Like, 110% certain. I also don't think you should get killed via a torturous way, or something that takes too long (I.E, electric chair, stoning, hung etc. etc.) I'd rather get shot to death from a firing squad than get pelted with stones until I die.

Yeah, I think it should be legal and stuff,


Also being hanged isn't slow, it breaks your neck and kills you almost instantly if you do it right.

[stuntman021]

Yeah, I think it should be legal and stuff,


Also being hanged isn't slow, it breaks your neck and kills you almost instantly if you do it right.

why?

[asablief]

it's taught in colleges, and therapists make a good sum of money. i'd count that as respected

Mechanical Engineering is taught in colleges, but that actually requires a lot of knowledge, not a bunch of guessing how someone else's mind works. Not a single person in my family has ever needed therapy and not a single one of them will ever get it, because in our opinion it is useless. Dunno about yours.

[dkamm65]

should probably post a source for those statistics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recidivism#United_States_Nationwide
http://blog.nj.com/perspective/2011/07/crime_and_punishment_in_norway.html