Author Topic: Fox News Viewers Threaten American Atheists  (Read 4528 times)

What the hell are you even trying to say?


I'm thoroughly convinced that 95% of the people Dodger's arguing with are just trolls.

I'm not trolling, I'm saying we should ignore the bible entirely.

I'm following the Bible along with the teachings of my church, my family, and other programs.Its not a matter of proving it, you can't prove it.  Of course you could take the whole idea and call it 'mind games'.

You're not following the full bible, and that means you're following some other source above it.

He did not destroy the law, he reestablished it and fufilled it.

http://www.wordofhisgrace.org/jesusfulfilllawqa1.htm

The law was not destroyed, it was reshaped and set in new standards.

It seems like he was saying he's elaborating on the laws based on that information, but if you elaborate on a law with something that utterly contradicts it you're destroying it.

ITT Atheists and Christians duke it out, Atheists make claims about the bible when none of them have read it and Christians say it makes sense.


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Most christians have never read the bible either.

This topic went from Fox News to a religion war.

Good job guys!

Wouldn't it be funny if Christianity was just a big joke, but then some guys, who didn't know, started to take it seriously.

Everyone should read some of the bible, I'm an atheist and that still stands true, read like 25% of it at least.

inbred southern hick forgettards
since when should people be killed for not believing in fairy tales?

It's ironic because they're being very impious by discussing all these sinful horrors which they'd enjoy doing to atheists.

inbred southern hick forgettardssince when should people be killed for not believing in fairy tales?

I find this statement offensive.

;-;

It seems like he was saying he's elaborating on the laws based on that information, but if you elaborate on a law with something that utterly contradicts it you're destroying it.

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With this in mind, let’s look at Matthew 5:17, along with verse 18: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” Amazingly, many who comment on these verses completely ignore the fact that the word “fulfilled” at the end of verse 18 is not translated from plēroō. It is, instead, translated from genētai, which is a form of ginomai. There can be no controversy about the meaning of this word. It means “accomplished” or “comes to pass.”

From the same source I linked

From the same source I linked

I didn't bother to read it all the way through. A law can't be accomplished or come to pass. He must be referring to the fact that he supposedly fulfils the messiah prophecies.

"Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists."

LOL, says the one who just said "Can we please just kill them all?"

You're not following the full bible, and that means you're following some other source above it.
No.  Following the church along with the Bible is fine, along with the other teachings from family and programs.

No.  Following the church along with the Bible is fine, along with the other teachings from family and programs.

The church isn't following the bible, therefore you aren't following the bible, therefore you're a pretty stuffty christian.

I didn't bother to read it all the way through. A law can't be accomplished or come to pass. He must be referring to the fact that he supposedly fulfils the messiah prophecies.

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Jesus' last words on the Cross were, "It is finished" (see John 19:30). He had done everything His Father had sent Him to do (see John 17:4). One of things He had come to do is found in Matthew: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil" (Matthew 5:17). So, one of the things Jesus had come to do was to fulfill—not destroy, but fulfill—the law. Obviously, then, by the time He said, "It is finished," He had done this. But the question is, in what way did He "fulfill" the law? What did He mean by "fulfill"?

Yes, as soon as he filled those promises, the law could pass

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With this in mind, let’s look at Matthew 5:17, along with verse 18: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”

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So, in these two verses, Jesus is saying that 1) He did not come to destroy the law or the prophets, 2) He did come to fulfill them, 3) heaven and earth would have to pass before one jot or tittle—the smallest parts of the law, and, therefore, they stand for the entire law—can pass from the law UNTIL all is accomplished. I capitalized “until” because it is a word that so many expositors ignore here.

His mission was to fufill the law. As soon as he spoke the words in John 19:30, the law had been fufilled and could pass.
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wtf does fox have to do with this? someone answer me

The church isn't following the bible, therefore you aren't following the bible, therefore you're a pretty stuffty christian.
I'm Catholic, I go to church to learn verses, lessons, and homilies from the Bible.

Does that clear things up?
wtf does fox have to do with this? someone answer me
Read the comments in the picture, it led to this.