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[Wynd_Fox]

oh america, how doth i hate thee? let me list the ways
gay marriage is only legal in 8 states, and there's lobbying against in in a lot of the states it's illegal in And lobbying FOR it in the ones it's not. Plus, other countries have far worse treatment for gays.
weed is illegal for personal use in all the states Eh, I don't really have strong feelings either way.
there are politicians who support the ideal that rape is caused by the victim Nutjob politicians exist everywhere. But I agree that this is terrible.
11,000 gun murders this year alone Terrible, but

Country↓    % homicides with firearms↓    Firearm homicide rate
per 100,000 pop.↓    Non-firearm homicide rate
per 100,000 pop.↓    Overall homicide rate
per 100,000 pop.↓
Australia    16    0.31    1.26    1.57
Azerbaijan    8    0.22    2.59    2.81
Barbados    40    3.00    4.49    7.49
Belarus    33    3.31    6.82    10.13
Bulgaria    19    0.77    3.3    4.07
Canada[27]    34    0.54    1.04    1.58
Chile    11    0.18    1.37    1.55
Colombia    85    51.77    10.9    62.7
Costa Rica[27]    51    3.38    3.19    6.57
Denmark    24    0.26    0.83    1.09
England & Wales[27]    8    0.12    1.33    1.45
Estonia    13    1.53    8.92    10.45
Finland[28]    19    0.43    1.94    2.19
Germany    40    0.47    0.70    1.17
Guatemala    75    18.50    25.5    25.47
Hungary    21    0.44    1.61    2.05
India[27]    25    0.93    2.04    2.97
Ireland[27]    24    0.32    1.01    1.33
Latvia    11    1.26    10    11.3
Lithuania    18    2.25    10    12.3
Macedonia    36    1.28    2.31    3.59
Mexico    21    3.66    14.1    17.8
Moldova, Republic of    5    0.47    8.13    8.59
New Zealand    13    0.18    1.17    1.36
Paraguay    38    7.35    12    19.4
Poland    7    0.43    5.61    6.04
Portugal    25    0.84    2.45    3.31
Qatar[27]    25    0.18    0.53    0.71
Singapore    3    0.02    0.92    0.95
Slovakia    45    2.17    2.65    4.81
Slovenia    25    0.6    1.81    2.41
Spain    16    0.25    1.25    1.5
Switzerland    37    0.56    0.96    1.52
Ukraine    4    0.35    8.93    9.27
United States[27]    46    3.97    4.58    8.55
Uruguay    35    2.52    4.61    7.13
Zimbabwe    40    4.75    7.24    12

...in other words, not as high as many other countries.
homeless person gets 15-45 years (around this, not sure of exact numbers) for 100 dollar theft that he turned himself in for, ceo that embezzles millions gets 3-5 years Just awful, but probably happens anywhere capitalism exists, not sure.
cops almost never get punished for doing bad stuff Pretty sure they get same punishment as other citizens.
is that enough for you, or do i need to keep going?

when did i say the usa was the worst? show me the post where i said that and i'll admit defeat right here and now

You heavily implied it, by saying you hate the US.

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[Frontrox]

There are corrupted cops, and i'm not saying any of them should not be punished.

 You were implying that all cops do bad stuff, but very few do.

[stuntman021]

...in other words, not as high as many other countries.
homeless person gets 15-45 years (around this, not sure of exact numbers) for 100 dollar theft that he turned himself in for, ceo that embezzles millions gets 3-5 years Just awful, but probably happens anywhere capitalism exists, not sure.
cops almost never get punished for doing bad stuff Pretty sure they get same punishment as other citizens.
is that enough for you, or do i need to keep going?
You heavily implied it, by saying you hate the US.

so if i say i hate pizza, that automatically means i love ice cream? your logic makes no sense
capitalism is awful too
no they don't, i can show you more examples of cops doing deplorable stuff and not getting punished than getting punished

There are corrupted cops, and i'm not saying any of them should not be punished.

 You were implying that all cops do bad stuff, but very few do.

is implying the new codeword for "HERE'S A STRAWMAN" or something?

[Frontrox]

is implying the new codeword for "HERE'S A STRAWMAN" or something?

What?

[Wynd_Fox]

No, you clearly don't hate everywhere, though. And if you do, you're an angsty teen, and you'll get over it soon.
Saying stuff without citation isn't an example. My chart is from Wikipedia, by the way.

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capitalism is awful too

It's Capitalism, or Communism.

Your choice.



or you can go crawl under a rock and die.

[Wynd_Fox]

Or he could choose a different economic model. It's not black and white.

[stuntman021]

What?

the two people who have used "implying" in this argument have tried to argue a point that i never said or actually implied at all

Wikipedia

Saying stuff without citation isn't an example.

wait what

No, you clearly don't hate everywhere, though. And if you do, you're an angsty teen, and you'll get over it soon.

i like how you changed your argument as soon as i refuted it
i don't, sweden kicks ass

It's Capitalism, or Communism.

Your choice.



or you can go crawl under a rock and die.

i'd rather have communism than capitalism, as long as it didn't get corrupted

Or he could choose a different economic model. It's not black and white.

thank you

[Harm94]

so if i say i hate pizza, that automatically means i love ice cream? your logic makes no sense
capitalism is awful too
no they don't, i can show you more examples of cops doing deplorable stuff and not getting punished than getting punishedis implying the new codeword for "HERE'S A STRAWMAN" or something?

You make no sense. He is saying not all cops should be punished, just the corrupt ones. You are just trying to keep the fire fueled for your own moronic crusade. Also people ignore the fact that all forms of government can be abused to exploit the people

[stuntman021]

You make no sense. He is saying not all cops should be punished, just the corrupt ones. You are just trying to keep the fire fueled for your own moronic crusade. Also people ignore the fact that all forms of government can be abused to exploit the people

was this a reply to my post or a post i quoted?

[Wynd_Fox]

What? Wikipedia cites their sources.

And OK, see, Sweden probably has many of the same problems, but unlike the US, one, you don't live there. Two, it doesn't try to be a superhero, so it gets less publicity. Therefore, you hear of those problems less.

[Frontrox]

as long as it didn't get corrupted

Communism will always be corrupt.

[Anti-Block]

i'd rather have communism than capitalism, as long as it didn't get corrupted

Hey, a world where everyone shared would be dandy.
But there's almost no way Communism wouldn't get corrupted at some point. It didn't work in Russia, it won't work elsewhere.

[Harm94]

was this a reply to my post or a post i quoted?

Half of it a reply, half a reply to everyone else.

[stuntman021]

What? Wikipedia cites their sources.

And OK, see, Sweden probably has many of the same problems, but unlike the US, one, you don't live there. Two, it doesn't try to be a superhero, so it gets less publicity. Therefore, you hear of those problems less.

probably isn't good enough
and if wikipedia cites a source for a place, link to said place instead of wikipedia.

Hey, a world where everyone shared would be dandy.
But there's almost no way Communism wouldn't get corrupted at some point. It didn't work in Russia, it won't work elsewhere.

then socialism, i guess

Communism will always be corrupt.

so will capitalism 8)