Author Topic: Incomprehensible, Depressing Mindforget  (Read 4749 times)

Personally life and the Universe bores me. So I don't care or worry about what life means.
I don't know what the human life span is, but The max is at least 1 century. I'm content on not feeling depressed on something I don't want to know. Religion, Science, Neither side to me add up. So I just kick back, relax and enjoy a chicken finger sandwich or whatever else is available to me in my life.

It's quite simple. When we die, our bodies will decompose. The atoms of our bodies will be rearranged to new molecules. In that matter, we will continue to live forever. Part of you will maybe turn to grass, which will be eaten by a cow, which will be eaten by a pregnant woman. So a tiny part of you will actually be reborn as a new human being! On a related note: It is also quite cool to think about that each and every one of us consists of stardust.

But I have to disappoint you about the counsciousness part. Thoughts are just electrochemical reactions inside our brains. They do not have mass or energy, nor can they exist outside our brains. Therefore, they cease to exist once we die :/
bottom part true

we are formed from stardust also true

All I can say is you just have to enjoy life while you can. You can't worry about death when you're only so young. But you do have to accept it happens to the best of people too early, and you will mourn, and you will cry. But life goes on, and just feel content with the fact that you might see them again someday. God, that felt weird saying that, but it also felt really good.

who cares if you're right or not in this life? its the next life that matters because this is finite, the afterlife is infinite

What if there's a god who only lets intelligent people into heaven? Where will you be then?

Anyway, I've thought about these issues too, and I've tried to think through them as logically as possible.

At this very moment I have no idea where I stand. I wish there to be an afterlife, I wish there to be a God, a heaven, etc. However, I fear the worst.
Think about it this way, what if there WERE an afterlife. For a few thousand years it'd probably be great. If it was perfect you could maybe get away with 10,000 years. But what about the next 10,000 years? And the next? And a trillion trillion years from now there'll still be an infinite amount of time left. It would be torture of the worst kind.
The truth... The fact that maybe we are just all a very advanced species. Knowledge is a curse, if we all remained apes and just didn't care why there's day and night, or why it isn't sunny everyday, or how we even got there. When we die, nothing happens. We're just like any other animal. It's terrifying, I loving hate the idea. I get more and more convinced and I just want to save myself the suspense and find out faster.
But the world is wonderful. When I learn about cosmology and physics all I can think about is how glad I am that I'm capable of comprehending it and maybe, if I'm lucky, adding to our knowledge of it.
What really drives me to try to have some faith or belief in heaven would be the loss of others. You don't want to believe that when your uncle dies, he simply decomposed in his coffin 6 feet under the ground and his total existence ended as abruptly it began...
Maybe not, but life would be worthless if it lasted forever, each moment worth nothing at all. Better to cherish it.
I was watching the news a some time ago and I remember listening to this story where a woman actually died for a short period of time in her hospital room and she talks about how she saw herself. She describes to have "Floated" or "Drifted" above her body and was watching her body just lie there. These type of experiences fascinate me.
I don't really know what causes this but my theory is that in its basest state the parts of your brain that keep you aware of the fact that you are you, and the parts that process the feelings from your body that allow you to know that you're in a body fail, creating the illusion of floating.
As our mind and their operations are very magnificent indeed, is it possible that consciousness or spiritual mind is able to exist outside the mind?
No. Our thoughts are purely electrochemical impulses.
Albert Einstein's famous equation E=mc² states that energy and matter are the same thing. Matter cannot be destroyed, therefore energy cannot be destroyed aswell. The energy of our consciousness cannot be destroyed then, but where does it go?
Energy/matter can't be destroyed but its form can be completely changed. When you say "energy of our consciousness" you just mean the electrical energy that formed our thoughts. This presumably dissipates into the surrounding matter until it is basically gone.
I'm terrified of my future. We have one life to live and that's it. Nothing else, but now. The present and future is all we have. I don't want to forget up, and I want to get to where I wish to go. I'm afraid of failure and not accomplishing anything. But then again what does it really matter, all the work for nothing. We simply perish after some 80 years and all is now rendered useless. I need to stop here as I can just continually run circles around everything I bring up.
Try thinking of it as the one chance you've got to make the best of things. If you forget it up it doesn't really matter but there's no harm enjoying it. That's just what I think anyway.
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First off, my actual name is Jonathan. I'm an open minded 15 year old living in a quiet suburb outside of Boston.

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Hi my name is Sven and I'm a scientologist from Germany

and I've been sober for 6 months!

Hi my name is Sven and I'm a scientologist from Germany
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I'm just going to say, believe in what you want to. most people on this forum (i think) are atheist. (course i'm more agnostic than anything)
so they'll try to de-bunk it with SCIENCE. but that is kind of what you're doing, but on the other side. trying to make it click with everybody that it is possible. which anything is possible. nobody alive actually knows.

I'm just going to say, believe in what you want to. most people on this forum (i think) are atheist. (course i'm more agnostic than anything)
so they'll try to de-bunk it with SCIENCE. but that is kind of what you're doing, but on the other side. trying to make it click with everybody that it is possible. which anything is possible. nobody alive actually knows.

That excuse doesn't work anymore. With modern neuroscience we DO know. Every part of our thought process is accounted for in an organ which ceases to work when we die. There's no reasonable argument to be made at this point.

I don't give a stuff about heaven, religion or anything about relgion. Only thing I'm scared about:
Hell, eternity burning with pain a million times worse than lemon juice on a razor knife cut, just is too harsh on me.

That excuse doesn't work anymore. With modern neuroscience we DO know. Every part of our thought process is accounted for in an organ which ceases to work when we die. There's no reasonable argument to be made at this point.

hurrrrr

theres always a possibility. really nobody knows anything. you can say "SCIENCE SAYS THIS, SCIENCE SAYS THAT" but there are loopholes that may not have been checked (no wait i'm positive they've never been checked) because we still do not have the equipment for something like that. death is a really deep subject, and no matter what science says there is always something that could be evading them.

but nobody wants eternal life. it gets extremely boring after a while. (or it will) and so much nothingness can be torture in itself

Love is an illusion your body perpetuates to trick you into reproducing, nothing more.
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