Help with: speeding up computer

[T0XIC]

You could install optifine for minecraft :P

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[Eightfold]

Overclock.
Ram Upgrade.
Water Cooling
Larger Disk
Defragment
Delete Crap
Waste $100 for the Geeksquad to tell you what I just did and suggest the overclock setup to someone who costs even more.

The only way i'd see Water Cooling helping is if your PC is burning and it's trying to lower it's heat by lowering performance, eitherway in the UK its overpriced to get a Water-Cooling GTX 580 or anything, you can buy a GTX 590 for the price.
Plus £200 wasn't my thing, so i went with air until the future.

Curios, $600 is a good budget, if you can sell off the laptop for some more, you can make a extremely good PC, i've been using a medium-end PC for a while, i need to upgrade my GPU from a GT 430, but eh, i got it for free in perfect condition.

Overclocking is a bad idea with a bog standard cooler, plus if you are starting off you're going to forget something up and void your warranty.
Eitherway Ethan is right.
Bulldozer's around the corner and the price is going to max out about the same as a i7 2600k, so you should wait for that before building, If you're alright with waiting longer, Ivy Bridge is a good choice, if you want to finish up now, just get a AM3+ socket quad/six core, you can make good M-ATX CPU + MoBo setups for less than $400
Add a M-ATX case and you can make a proper nice LAN gaming kit if you want to goto LAN conventions, NVidia are doing some good ones this year.

[dorkdotdan]

Case Closed.

[Eightfold]

Case Closed.

So you're saying the geek squad told you to buy water cooling which costs $320 + $100 extra

Generally you slap that onto any tech forum and they'll give you better.

[curiosblockland6]

Thanks, Eightfold. That really helped.

IT IS TIEM TO GO COMPUTOR SHOPPIN!1

[Ethan]

Commencing part search.

[Ethan]

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128510
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102940

~$583. Including rebates.

This is a great current gaming machine and has HUGE updatability. The motherboard is compatible with AMDs new Bulldozer CPU platform coming out in the next month or so (Don't know when exactly, they delay it lots, lol) so when they come down in price a bit, and you run into some more money, you could just chuck one of those in. They won't be that expensive. The current CPU in it is great too though.

And when you get more money you may wish to upgrade the GPU.

[Eightfold]

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128510
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102940

~$583. Including rebates.

This is a great current gaming machine and has HUGE updatability. The motherboard is compatible with AMDs new Bulldozer CPU platform coming out in the next month or so (Don't know when exactly, they delay it lots, lol) so when they come down in price a bit, and you run into some more money, you could just chuck one of those in. They won't be that expensive. The current CPU in it is great too though.

And when you get more money you may wish to upgrade the GPU.

Full agree, whenever you can dip some more money into a Radeon 6850, sapphire do some good Radeon 6850s with free DiRT 3 AND Deus Ex Human Revolution.
Also bulldozer is maxing it's price at a i7 2600, AMD have won the price/performance crowd for a while, but if you dont care about bang for the buck and you have alot more cash, sandy bridge is a option (sandy bridge boards are much more expensive than AMD boards in my opinion)

Say if you can set me up with a $600 computer with a AMD processor & a good radeon card above the 6770, i'd go for six core, bulldozer compatibility, m-atx set, to make a LAN PC so my friend and i can play together

Also building is the best choice curios, if you are playing not so intense games then buy a GT 430 and have a wallet ready for a ATi Radeon 6850

[dorkdotdan]

So you're saying the geek squad told you to buy water cooling which costs $320 + $100 extra

Generally you slap that onto any tech forum and they'll give you better.

Not possible, As I have a laptop and a laptop only.

[Specever]

DOWNLOAD MORE RAM

[Ethan]

Full agree, whenever you can dip some more money into a Radeon 6850, sapphire do some good Radeon 6850s with free DiRT 3 AND Deus Ex Human Revolution.
Also bulldozer is maxing it's price at a i7 2600, AMD have won the price/performance crowd for a while, but if you dont care about bang for the buck and you have alot more cash, sandy bridge is a option (sandy bridge boards are much more expensive than AMD boards in my opinion)

Say if you can set me up with a $600 computer with a AMD processor & a good radeon card above the 6770, i'd go for six core, bulldozer compatibility, m-atx set, to make a LAN PC so my friend and i can play together

Also building is the best choice curios, if you are playing not so intense games then buy a GT 430 and have a wallet ready for a ATi Radeon 6850

It's not worth it upgrading from a 6770 to a 6850. The performance gain isn't that great. It'd be way better to just save for a 6950, 6970 or just wait for the AMD Radeon 7XXX series coming out just after Bulldozer.

[Eightfold]

It's not worth it upgrading from a 6770 to a 6850. The performance gain isn't that great. It'd be way better to just save for a 6950, 6970 or just wait for the AMD Radeon 7XXX series coming out just after Bulldozer.

Problem is, 7xxx and 6xx are PCIe 3.0, i'd say wait for a bit, you can get the performance of a Radeon 6870 with Hybrid Crossfire with Llano, but it's a huge sacrifice as you can't play many newer games with performance similar to a Athlon x4

The truth is Ethan, the real performance difference between a 6850 & 6770 is pretty amazing. the thermal performance is generally beautifully powerful, and it's almost double the speed in tesellation in DX11, you can play Metro 2033 pretty well with the res @ 1600x900 if he knocks some AA off, the power consumption is 5 watts different, you see a 33% increase in Just Cause two, and Far Cry two by 50%
The Thermal Performance is that of my low profile card, in a full load it's only 55 degrees, the GTX 560 from GIGABYTE has the same performance nearly, XFX? Best Brand for the card, but yeah, i'd recommend a radeon 6770 over a 5770 for poor cooling but if you are a power-saver, 5770 it is.

[Ethan]

Problem is, 7xxx and 6xx are PCIe 3.0, i'd say wait for a bit, you can get the performance of a Radeon 6870 with Hybrid Crossfire with Llano, but it's a huge sacrifice as you can't play many newer games with performance similar to a Athlon x4

The truth is Ethan, the real performance difference between a 6850 & 6770 is pretty amazing. the thermal performance is generally beautifully powerful, and it's almost double the speed in tesellation in DX11, you can play Metro 2033 pretty well with the res @ 1600x900 if he knocks some AA off, the power consumption is 5 watts different, you see a 33% increase in Just Cause two, and Far Cry two by 50%
The Thermal Performance is that of my low profile card, in a full load it's only 55 degrees, the GTX 560 from GIGABYTE has the same performance nearly, XFX? Best Brand for the card, but yeah, i'd recommend a radeon 6770 over a 5770 for poor cooling but if you are a power-saver, 5770 it is.

I know, but thinking about the price, it's not worth dropping another $140 on a 6850 when you should save up for something more powerful.
The best thing to do is to drop $30 or so extra on the 6850 instead of the 6770 for the initial build. Or if you can, find a 5850, as they are cheaper and more powerful.
But I don't think OP can get more than $600.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&vpn=AX6850%201GBD5-DH&manufacture=PowerColor
Maybe?
Quite cheap.

[Eightfold]

I know, but thinking about the price, it's not worth dropping another $140 on a 6850 when you should save up for something more powerful.
The best thing to do is to drop $30 or so extra on the 6850 instead of the 6770 for the initial build. Or if you can, find a 5850, as they are cheaper and more powerful.
But I don't think OP can get more than $600.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&vpn=AX6850%201GBD5-DH&manufacture=PowerColor
Maybe?
Quite cheap.

I believe i still think the 5XXX seies is the most godlike.
the 5870 & 5850 has a stuffTON of cores, that's what i'd recommend, full agree.