I want to get Apple Certified.

[Sheath]

I never said I wanted to work for Microsoft?
Also, Microsoft has like 90 something % of the market share. Barely worth 'less than it's competitor by a mile'.

Haha. Market share for their products doesn't equal superior profitability in this case. As I said, they sell their products to other companies to use. Apple keeps self contained. Of course the market share for the non-self contained company will be massive in comparison.

However, in June of this year Apple became worth more than Microsoft and Intel combined.

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[Ethan]

However, in June of this year Apple became worth more than Microsoft and Intel combined.

Oh, I wonder why. Wonder if it has anything to do with Apple charging double what their computers are worth.

Also, Destroyer raises a valid point. Good luck, Trifax.

[Sheath]

Oh, I wonder why. Wonder if it has anything to do with Apple charging double what their computers are worth.

I knew you'd say something like that, I hope you don't honestly believe a more expensive price tag is the only reason for this. If you do, that explains your original comment.

[devildogelite]

I knew you'd say something like that, I hope you don't honestly believe a more expensive price tag is the only reason for this. If you do, that explains your original comment.

Microsoft is also more of a software company with zune and the xbox, which are pretty terrible. Apple sells software on top of, computer hardware, ipods, iphones, and ipads.

[Bisjac]

lol apple certified. that is some funny stuff.

[Ethan]

I knew you'd say something like that, I hope you don't honestly believe a more expensive price tag is the only reason for this. If you do, that explains your original comment.

Explain what it is then?
They overcharge for what they are. If that's not obvious, perhaps you should take a step back and look at what is really happening to Apple.

[Aphtonites]

Apple was a great company before they made the iphone and went overboard.

[Sheath]

Explain what it is then?

Sorry, I'm not Steve Jobs or the people who handle his financial and business plans. But suggesting its all down to a higher price tag is laughable. Alienware are expensive for one, but that doesn't make Dell massive. Insinuating you, or even I, should know the behind-the-scenes dynamics of Apple as a company, is really silly. Don't pretend Apple isn't an amazing company, you might hate their product but they are hugely successful and everyone who's opinion isn't clouded by personal preference would agree.

If that's not obvious, perhaps you should take a step back and look at what is really happening to Apple.

They are making money.

You aren't just paying for hardware, you are paying for the design, the use of Mac OS, the additional software, and the brand.

Apple was a great company before they made the iphone and went overboard.

Are you taking the piss?

[Ethan]

Sorry, I'm not Steve Jobs or the people who handle his financial and business plans. But suggesting its all down to a higher price tag is laughable. Alienware are expensive for one, but that doesn't make Dell massive. Insinuating you, or even I, should know the behind-the-scenes dynamics of Apple as a company, is really silly. Don't pretend Apple isn't an amazing company, you might hate their product but they are hugely successful and everyone who's opinion isn't clouded by personal preference would agree.

I never said it was all down to a higher price tag. It definitely plays a big part. What happens when you sell something for more? You get more money. That kinda relates to them, oh I don't know, having more money.

You aren't just paying for hardware, you are paying for the design, the use of Mac OS, the additional software, and the brand.

You can use the Mac OS on a standard computer. No need to pay that much extra on the machine.

Paying for the brand? Exactly. It's just like those super expensive HDMI cables that do absolutely no better than the cheapest HDMI cables. Yet they can feel free to charge more because they have the really good packaging that implies in more than once place that the cable will somehow enhance your viewing experience and quality, even though HDMI is a digital signal, so you either get the best quality signal, or no signal at all, making all cables equal.

Don't get me wrong, I like the whole principal behind Apple, making their own parts and having a great user friendly system with other products that interact well, but they charge too much.

[Sheath]

You can use the Mac OS on a standard computer.

That is illegal. Hackintosh computers are not legitimate.

[Ethan]

That is illegal. Hackintosh computers are not legitimate.

Really? It shouldn't be. Microsoft has given them peripheral support, Microsoft Office (the great overpriced thing it is) and also I'm fairly sure you can run Windows on an Apple computer.

[Sheath]

Microsoft has given them peripheral support, Microsoft Office (the great overpriced thing it is) and also I'm fairly sure you can run Windows on an Apple computer.

Microsoft hasn't given them anything. The peripheral support and ability to run Windows on a Mac is again just because that is how Microsoft sells their products. Microsoft Office is ported to Mac OS so they can get more sales on other platforms.

[Doomonkey]

Microsoft owns a large share of Apple.

[DontCare4Free]

Better that than working for a washed up company that trips over itself trying to play catch-up as it sells out its operating system to get max profit, even though its still worth less than its competitor by a mile.

Apple fits that description too!

You aren't just paying for hardware, you are paying for the design, the use of Mac OS, the additional software, and the brand.

Mac OS X is just BSD with Aqua and Apple's propretariary (in)compatibility layers.

Ugh, I hate the iPad keyboard

[Trifax]

Contrary to what most of the users in this thread seem to think, I doubt Trifax made the topic so you can complain about the "great injustices" you feel it throws out. This is not the topic to debate your personal beliefs. Trifax made it to share what he wants to accomplish. Despite how you may feel its what he wants to do and you should at least be mature and respect that.

And don't drag me into this little debate saying "I'm defending the company." I personally don't know enough about computers to really give two stuffs about whatever you people are arguing about.

Good luck on getting your certificate, Trifax.

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Discuss, I suppose, just thought I'd share with you all for no particular reason. I know you all will bash me for this endeavor, knowing this forum's feelings towards Apple, but I'm determined to meet this goal, so I hope at least some of you can respect that despite your "hatred" of Apple.

This is good discussion and all, but keep it at discussion. This is no place for a serious debate on Apple vs. Microsoft. Although Sheath is correct in saying that Microsoft is common to sell their product out to other companies. It's how they do business, so the difference being, Apple's hardware is assembled from within Apple's corporation, to best fit the OS that was designed for it.

I would suggest you stop arguing about the price, because there really isn't a huge difference. A high-end PC costs about as much as a Mac, because Mac's are high-end computers that come cleanly designed, running smoothly, and pre-installed with most of the software you would need.

I do recognize that Apple is sometimes deceiving. Basically every company is deceiving, so that's no surprise, but the reason I go with Apple is because I started computing on a Mac, I have a knowledge of the Mac/Apple devices, and I want to get a deeper understanding of their products. Getting Apple certified doesn't NECESSARILY mean I need to go work at Apple, although that's what I would like to do. Getting Apple certified just means you are authorized to handle Macs in the way the Apple Genius's do, and you can do it from external companies that perhaps resell Apple products or something.