CaptMeat is a stuffty admin

[Crown2]

Well Jetz could have seen the kill message and went to find you, to kill you.

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[Chrono]

Well Jetz could have seen the kill message and went to find you, to kill you.

Which is really stupid.

[Crown2]

Which is really stupid.

True, but if I enable hiding kills people freekill and we don't know who did it. I wish I could have only Guards have hidden deaths but when Prisoners die anyone could see.

[Crown2]

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[stuntman021]

There is no loving option to turn the kill notification off, jesus, you aren't helping at all here stuntman, all you've done is call seventh a whiny bitch and dismiss anything he has said

then make a mod for it!

[SeventhSandwich]

then make a mod for it!

Even though the conflict is resolved, I'm going to go ahead and address what you've said, specifically so this thread doesn't have to go on longer.

Basically you are validating the process of killing a prisoner with the intent being that you saw them kill another guard in the combat notifications. Despite the fact that I've already addressed that it is metagaming because the guard did not ACTUALLY see the prisoner murder the guard, your retaliating argument is one of these:

• Killing via Metagaming is alright because there is no mod preventing it.
• SeventhSandwich's argument is incorrect because he's just whining about getting killed!
• JailRPs are stupid so your argument is invalid.

All of which are fallacious in their own unique ways, a couple minutes of searching nizkor.org's fallacy page will easily find you the specific ones, but it makes little difference because you don't actually care about correcting your argument.

This goes back to a question I asked you a few weeks back, how old are you? From what I see, you are either really stupid and incapable of creating a coherent argument in a situation like this, or you're young and your ability to do so hasn't developed. I ask this for the same reason I did a few weeks ago, which is that I'd feel bad to call a 9 year old kid stupid just because his argument isn't developed.

[RedGajin]

then make a mod for it!

There already is :I

[Chrono]

then make a mod for it!

It doesn't matter if Seventh or soba make/find a mod for it. It's not their server. They can't put the add-on into the server.

[stuntman021]

Even though the conflict is resolved, I'm going to go ahead and address what you've said, specifically so this thread doesn't have to go on longer.

Basically you are validating the process of killing a prisoner with the intent being that you saw them kill another guard in the combat notifications. Despite the fact that I've already addressed that it is metagaming because the guard did not ACTUALLY see the prisoner murder the guard, your retaliating argument is one of these:

• Killing via Metagaming is alright because there is no mod preventing it.
• SeventhSandwich's argument is incorrect because he's just whining about getting killed!
• JailRPs are stupid so your argument is invalid.

All of which are fallacious in their own unique ways, a couple minutes of searching nizkor.org's fallacy page will easily find you the specific ones, but it makes little difference because you don't actually care about correcting your argument.

This goes back to a question I asked you a few weeks back, how old are you? From what I see, you are either really stupid and incapable of creating a coherent argument in a situation like this, or you're young and your ability to do so hasn't developed. I ask this for the same reason I did a few weeks ago, which is that I'd feel bad to call a 9 year old kid stupid just because his argument isn't developed.

my arguments are the first two
if you can do it within the game with no external programs helping you, it's fair game
if it's a big problem for you then don't play the game or find a server that forbids it. nobody's forcing you to play on a specific jailrp server, just leave and find one with rules that you agree with. if you can't, make your own. don't cry about something if the game and administrator allows it. if you have a problem with the rules, take it up with the person who owns the server, not one of the admins. the owner of the server can change the rules, not the admins

[stuntman021]

There already is :I

see, there you go! play on a server with that mod or make a server with that mod and install it
also, do you have a link?

[SeventhSandwich]

my arguments are the first two
if you can do it within the game with no external programs helping you, it's fair game
if it's a big problem for you then don't play the game or find a server that forbids it. nobody's forcing you to play on a specific jailrp server, just leave and find one with rules that you agree with. if you can't, make your own. don't cry about something if the game and administrator allows it. if you have a problem with the rules, take it up with the person who owns the server, not one of the admins. the owner of the server can change the rules, not the admins

I never asked the admin to change the rules. I asked him to tell Crown to change the rules.

[stuntman021]

I never asked the admin to change the rules. I asked him to tell Crown to change the rules.

tell him yourself

[Crown2]

True, but if I enable hiding kills people freekill and we don't know who did it. I wish I could have only Guards have hidden deaths but when Prisoners die anyone could see.

to your hiding kills.

[SeventhSandwich]

tell him yourself

neither have IRC

didn't known crown2 was crown.

[Count]

neither have IRC

didn't known crown2 was crown.

You can still message Crown with "/msg Crown" on irc. If he is online he will see the message.