Poll

What's your favorite subgenre of EDM?

Electro
18 (23.7%)
Dubstep
11 (14.5%)
Drumstep/DnB
16 (21.1%)
House
7 (9.2%)
Trance
9 (11.8%)
Hardstyle/Hard Dance
8 (10.5%)
Moombah/Glitch Hop/Downtempo
7 (9.2%)

Total Members Voted: 76

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idgaf if they're the "industry standard" or not, forget the "industry standard."

and forget apple.

idgaf if they're the "industry standard" or not, forget the "industry standard."

and forget apple.
lots of artists use beats by dreapparantly edm musicians dont know alow about the whole e part so i better get them!

Alright Raeyok, I seriously thought you were more intelligent than this. I'm choosing to actually dignify this with a response because I feel like you need to get your self-righteous apple hating head out of your ass.


Apple computers are the industry standard. Not because they're better than windows computers by no means. But 99% of the programs that you should be using to make actual music (I'm not talking about you friends who use FL studio. That program is the biggest excuse for music production ever. If you're using it as your primary program, you're a loving failure and should throw your computer out the window. Using it for synth mapping and minor synth composition is okay, but anything beyond that is loving pointless.) are built FOR Mac OSX. I don't care what you say, I don't care how you try to tell me this. I work in the industry, I can tell you more about any of these programs than you'll ever be able to wrap your head around.

Now, on to the point of why Apple computers actually surpass windows computers;

The obvious one is already listed above. Most companies build their programs to be optimized to use on OSX. I could tell you why, but you'll just come in here with "hurr durr but it works just as fine on a windows computer too!!!11" and that's okay, but if you ever want to be taken seriously, you'll have to step into the big boy world. There's tons of compatilibity issues with programs and Windows. And you won't realize this until you make the actual switch. I was exactly like you when I first started, I said forget macs i'll use windows and be gucci. 6 years later here I am ragging on it. Take it from someone with personal experience.

Now, I use Ableton Live as my primary program, so I'm going to build the rest of this discussion around that one program. When you use Ableton on Windows, it's slow as forget. You'd be better off taking a piece of tin foil and producing all of the wobbles yourself than trying to open Massive on W-L8 (windows-ableton live 8). The plugins take forever to load, the program crashes left and right, a lot of external hardware has compatibility issues with it (not because it isn't compatible with windows, but because the actual plug-in manager and driver locator on w-l8 is really stuffty. It's pretty stuffty on Macs too, but slightly less.

Finally, and this point might be hard for you to fathom because you've got your tough as nails forget the norm ideas about this, but this entire industry is built around your image. You go on to stage with a Lenovo Thinkpad and you're going to get laughed at. It's unfortunate, but it's true. Same with why fat girls don't usually make it in the industry, nobody wants to see a whale jiggling with the bass on stage.






Also, to you idiots who keep on jumping on the Beats bandwagon, I recently bought a pair of Beats Executives and I've been using them on stage and in the studio for the past 6 weeks, and I see absolutely no difference in audio fidelity from my AKG Quincy Jones, or my Sennheisers or my Bose OTE's. The whole Beats thing goes back to image. They look cool. You want to look cool on stage. It's key, I'm serious.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2012, 04:58:55 PM by Beachbum »

you don't have to get a macbook just because it's "industry standard". what the hell kind of reasoning is that.
you could EASILY find a much better laptop for the same price if not less.

lots of artists use beats by dreapparantly edm musicians dont know alow about the whole e part so i better get them!
honestly are stuff though, i don't see how anyone uses them for producing.

(I'm not talking about you friends who use FL studio. That program is the biggest excuse for music production ever. If you're using it as your primary program, you're a loving failure and should throw your computer out the window. Using it for synth mapping and minor synth composition is okay, but anything beyond that is loving pointless.)
stopped reading here and lost most of my respect for you.

i just now noticed that this is a forum full of windows bandwagoning goons. no point actually trying to reason with you guys.

stopped reading here and lost most of my respect for you.

Dude go use Ableton and tell me that it's not 100x better. Like, I'm sorry to break it to you, but FL is garbage.

i just now noticed that this is a forum full of windows bandwagoning goons. no point actually trying to reason with you guys.

Dude go use Ableton and tell me that it's not 100x better. Like, I'm sorry to break it to you, but FL is garbage.
Oh I have, i hated it.

Oh I have, i hated it.

Maybe you shouldn't give up after 25 minutes because it doesn't use the same shortcuts. If you spent some time with it and gave it a chance, your point of view would completely change.

Go ask Hiiro. I gave him total hell for using FL studio for like a week and a half until I convinced him to get ableton. Not only did the quality of his music improve 100-150%, but he literally thanked me for giving him a hard time.

Dude go use Ableton and tell me that it's not 100x better. Like, I'm sorry to break it to you, but FL is garbage.
what the forget do preferences suddenly not exist anymore

ok actually, what the hell does it even matter.

i believe it matters more how your music sounds over what you use to make it. i have friends who use cubase, i have friends who use reason, i have friends who use FLS, and i have friends that use ableton, but i could care less. i like how their music sounds.

not going to go into an argument because i'm sure our opinions wouldn't change. you have yours. i have mine. let's quietly drop this now and let everyone use what they work best with.

Go ask Hiiro. I gave him total hell for using FL studio for like a week and a half until I convinced him to get ableton. Not only did the quality of his music improve 100-150%, but he literally thanked me for giving him a hard time.
This is true. I hated Ableton until I understood how Automation Clips work in it and how you can record them, and until I found Arrangement mode.

After that it was smoooooth sailing.

(not trying to get into any arguments so plz don't call me out, just saying my opinions ._.)

what the forget do preferences suddenly not exist anymore
apparently.

according to beachbum, it's all about what bandwagon you're on, not what you want to do with your career. or how you prefer to do things your own way.

Because it's not an issue of preference, it's an issue of quality of program. FL studio is the lowest quality DAW ever made. I wasn't going to start a stuffstorm but with one here I'm more than happy to jump aboard. People who use FL studio are god awful at making music. Their entire reasoning for using the program is that it's easy and XXXX uses it!!! XXXX is a loving power user and probably uses 50 different programs before releasing their final product; just because it rolls through FL studio at some point doesn't make it a good choice for 100% of your production. "The default plug-ins are great!" No they're not. They're about as good as stock parts can be-- but ImageLine sucks at making plugins. You never see people raving about how good Toxic Biohazard is, but half of the bass-heavy industry uses NI Massive. The only part of it that is acceptable is its piano roll. It's pretty. That's about all I can say for it, pretty much every DAW has an equivalent. I agree with Beachbum, go sit down at Ableton for a solid 6 hours and learn how it works, you'll fall in love with it once you see how much more powerful it is than FL Studio.

As far as the MacBook thing goes, Beachbum is dead on there too. You don't have to use one, but think about it from the company's point of view:

90% of your customers are using Macs
10% of your customers are using Windows
You really can only optimize for one OS, you'll deoptimize for the other if you optimize for one. It's just part of how Operating Systems work.

So, obviously, you're going to optimize for the one that 90% of your client base uses. And, as I stated before, if you optimize for Mac, it'll lower the running quality on Windows. When you're on stage in the middle of a live mix and your Ableton crashes, you're not going to get hired there anymore. It's not just image. Having choppy music pumping out of your computer because Windows sucks is just unacceptable.

ignoring all this stuff about producing since i don't have much effort to become one and just want to listen to music

Example & Dillon Francis - Someone To Die For

so chill

Honestly I might convert down to Ableton since my uncle has a unused copy he's willing to lend to me.

Honestly I might convert down to Ableton since my uncle has a unused copy he's willing to lend to me.
wtf why are you so lucky