Java Game Developing

[Edman]

I'm going to make a rough attempt at game developement. What program should I start with?

[Ad Bot]

[Extrude]

Microsoft Visual Studio/Express I think.

[LordCutlerBeckett]

Well you need an IDE for the coding.

www.jcreator.com/

I don't know about anything else, Java is less promising then C++ imo.

Microsoft Visual Studio/Express I think.

Isn't that just C++?

[Edman]

Should I attemp flash Java or C++?

[Tyler66]

Microsoft Visual Studio/Express I think.

Last time I checked, MVS was an IDE that didn't support Java programming.

[Extrude]

Don't use Flash. I don't know the difference between Java and C++, but I use XNA which is just a library/add-on or something for C#.

[LordCutlerBeckett]

Should I attemp flash Java or C++?

Java is easier, but has less capabilities than C++.
C++ is a little harder to learn, but has much more capabilities than Java.

I would start with Java just to get a hang of programming. It's not like Java is bad.

Flash isn't really programming, programs do it all for you. But whatever.

[Tyler66]

C++ with OpenGL is actually a good place to start making games because most game engines are built upon C++, plus many tutorials for C++ gaming development on websites such as NeHe.

[Edman]

Anyone with Java experience mind explaining things to me?

[Extrude]

Programming/scripting languages are not easy to learn. You can't just explain it.

[LordCutlerBeckett]

Just look up some tutorials on programming. There are some good ones if you keep looking.

[Winner2]

Anyone with Java experience mind explaining things to me?

Java works for both Mac and Windows. (unlike C++)
It's used for everything, from phones to super computers.
Syntax isn't as handicapped as C++ (opinion)
You dont have to pay for the JDK.
Android was made in java.
You can make both applications and applets with Java.

[Demian]

Eclipse is good from what I've heard.

[Otis Da HousKat]

Java works for both Mac and Windows. (unlike C++)

What? C++ compilers exist for many platforms including OS X.

C++ with OpenGL is actually a good place to start making games because most game engines are built upon C++, plus many tutorials for C++ gaming development on websites such as NeHe.

Creating your own competent game engine with little to no programming experience seems a bit far-fetched doesn't it?

Eclipse is good from what I've heard.

Eclipse is an integrated development environment (IDE), not a programming language. It does however support programming in both Java and C++ among other things.

[Demian]

Eclipse is an integrated development environment (IDE), not a programming language.

And that is exactly what he wanted.

What program should I start with?