Author Topic: Women Who Are Raped Should Have Their Rapist’s Baby Because It’s A Gift From God  (Read 8361 times)

A days old egg does not have a brain, consciousness, thoughts, emotions, or expression. It is not comparable to a 3 month old baby.
I think the Idea is, what is the definition of a human. And I believe that a one celled organism is a human given it has the correct chromosomes.

I believe that it is rash, and even more insensetive judgement to kill a perfectly innocent child then to kill the rapist who has thrown his lot in to be an insensetive fool.



Lets start from the beginning again, if we may, do you believe rape is bad?

No, I'm Steve. Everyone else is either a Skeleton, Spider, Zombie, Silverfish, Pig, Sheep, Cow, Chicken, Squid, or Wolf to me.
Alright, than this doesn't apply to you.

Lets start from the beginning again, if we may, do you believe rape is bad?

Of course it's bad.

What's almost as bad is forcing a girl to mother the child of a heinous crime that she didn't deserve to be the victim of.

Of course it's bad.
Good.

Now we have two problems, the baby, and the rapist.

What happens to the baby?

And What happens to the rapist?



Just as a sidenote, Rick is wrong, yes babys (Normal ones) can be arguable that they are God's, (Depends on religion, yata yata) But rape babies are of Man's Evil (Lord of the Flies) and they should be held accountable (the rapist)

Can God work rape babies into his plan? Once again based on religion. But is Rick is an idoit to say that all babies are gifts from God. Because it is humans who make the babies, then if God takes charge. Well, (you can guess it) it is based on religion.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 02:42:12 AM by Choneis »

What happens to the baby?

Aborted if the mother so chooses.

And What happens to the rapist?

A jail sentence decided by the courts if he's caught and tried.

And don't ignore the rest of my previous post.
What's almost as bad is forcing a girl to mother the child of a heinous crime that she didn't deserve to be the victim of.

She is given a child to care to, a child she did not want and now must maintain, a child with a single parent who will likely find difficulty supporting it.

Aborted if the mother so chooses.

A jail sentence decided by the courts if he's caught and tried.

And don't ignore the rest of my previous post.
I didn't ignore, hopefully I can answer it.

Jails take money.

So do babies. If you kill all the jail tenants (not saying we should) you have more money as a government. Give the money of the rapist, (who has been recently executed or dealt with in a apporitate manner) and money saved by good punishment to the baby.

Than the decision is, should I put him up for adoption.

The baby has a life (Not murder), the rape victim, and rape baby get money, (And justice)

And in the long run, less rape.

I do not see a problem.


Btw, I'm going to bed.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 02:49:53 AM by Choneis »

The stupidity is hurting my brain.

Your last post really didn't make much sense to me either.

I was attacking his post, not his arguments. I don't like being insulted in an under the belt fashion after I give a valid argument.

The stupidity is hurting my brain.
Oh sheesh, I hate it when I get hit in the stomach before going to bed.

First off, this statement is ad hominum your attacking me, not my argument.

Second off, this statement has no argument, it is completely arbitary. (I was thinking the same thing about you.)

Infact, hell I was. Your stupidity is hurting my brain. The difference is I got an argument and you don't. You can't think of a reasonable reply, fine. So guess what attack the person.

So my perfectly good suggestion to you is that you take 10 minutes research time, like I did, figure something out in your near-absent mind and post it.  Don't you attack me, throw stupid little emotional appeals, or talk in reservable fashion.

Stupid forgeter.

« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 02:58:32 AM by Choneis »

Your last post really didn't make much sense to me either.

This is what you're saying in a nutshell.

Woman is raped.

Force her to birth the child.

Execute the rapist.

Have child live off of government assistance.

You clearly have no idea how much money it actually costs the state/government to execute an inmate, nor do you understand the cost of raising a child. Both of those you are perfectly fine having the government pay for, just to save a days old egg that the mother does not deserve and may not want.

There is still the emotional cost to the mother and the child. The mother will have to live knowing the child was born of rape, and every time she sees the child, she will be reminded of it. The same goes for the child's emotions.

How would you feel if you were a 14 year old girl and you were raped and impregnated by your own father? Would you want to raise that child? Of loving course you wouldn't.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 03:06:32 AM by dkamm65 »

This is what you're saying in a nutshell.

Woman is raped.

Force her to birth the child.

Execute the rapist.

Have child live off of government assistance.
More or less, there is room for improvement, but it does solve all the problems.
Though I would mention that the baby and mother do get the assists (land, money etc..) of the rapist.  So the cost isn't extremely fatal to the government. But lifegoes on.
You clearly have no idea how much money it actually costs the state/government to execute an inmate, nor do you understand the cost of raising a child.
.50 $, one bullet.

500,000~$ dollars. (I think, near as I can tell)

Beats murder, and justice is served.


 Both of those you are perfectly fine having the government pay for, just to save a days old egg that the mother does not deserve and may not want.

There is still the emotional cost to the mother and the child. The mother will have to live knowing the child was born of rape, and every time she sees the child, she will be reminded of it. The same goes for the child's emotions.

How would you feel if you were a 14 year old girl and you were raped and impregnated by your own father? Would you want to raise that child? Of loving course you wouldn't.

Yes, there is an emotional part, for both abortion and rape, nothing you can do about it. But soon enough, (If you don't keep aborting people) rape drops. The emotional problem decreases.

There is nothing anyone can do for the emotions.

But at the present handling of things (Murder the baby) nothings going to change. Jail is easy, not really punishment for alot of people. But that is a completely different subject.

Though I would mention that the baby and mother do get the assists (land, money etc..) of the rapist.  So the cost isn't extremely fatal to the government.

How do you not see how stupid this sounds? Death penalty for rape is already disproportionate to the crime, and now you want to give all of his assets to the child? What if the rapist had a wife and kids? Do you just throw them out and give the house to the victim's child?

500,000~$ dollars. (I think, near as I can tell)

Wrong. Completely wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ihv8qjPKg

Beats murder, and justice is served.

As far as I'm concerned, the death penalty IS murder.

Yes, there is an emotional part, for both abortion and rape, nothing you can do about it

Yes there is. Abort the baby.

There is nothing anyone can do for the emotions.

See above.

Now:
How would you feel if you were a 14 year old girl and you were raped and impregnated by your own father? Would you want to raise that child? Of loving course you wouldn't.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 03:30:23 AM by dkamm65 »

Wrong. Completely wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ihv8qjPKg

That is based on the system they have for execution, they need to fix that. But once again, that is a different subject.

I'll consider that both are EXTREMELY expensive, (which is true), and assume that it isn't going to change (Which it could) for the sake of argument.

As to your example, I wouldn't abort, Period. But that is my biased opinion. This case is tricky, because the man who was to protect you. Well, I would, put the the baby for an unclosed adoption. And solve the problem within the household. (Which once again is a different subject, how do you deal with complete idoits who masquarade as men.)

But, the wife should divorce him, (duh) I think, shotgun divorce.  All property to the wife, and life continues, (Painfully true,but continues nontheless. there is no way around emotion)


I know that, stop thinking so hard it will go away.

God. If I can't argue something without being seen as brainless I can't argue anything to those people.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 03:41:27 AM by Choneis »