Author Topic: Planning a governmental system that would work... ever tried it?  (Read 3211 times)

so you never hurted anyone b4?
nope
jetlok is a gentle giant!!!

nope
jetlok is a gentle giant!!!
HOWEVER

PREQUEL IS AN OUTRAGE AND MUST BE WIPED IMMEDIATELY

Cats can and will take high offense to it and which then you are physically hurting them.

HOWEVER

PREQUEL IS AN OUTRAGE AND MUST BE WIPED IMMEDIATELY

Cats can and will take high offense to it and which then you are physically hurting them.

forget you and your overprotective behavior about cats

I'm gonna go accidentally pull on a cat's tail too hard

I love your idea, I really do.
Your input is great, thanks!

It would be cool to have the media involved in finding deciders.
You're right about the amount being defined in the constitution, but the only problem is with inflation and stuff like that. The amount would have to change depending on the state of the economy. However, it could probably be done with a percentage of the GDP or something.
To get this whole thing started you'd have to have a group of deciders already. The deciders would decide on deciders who would decide on deciders, etc.
The idea of the military stuff was to make sure that the people who ended up on top knew exactly what their forces were going through, just as a moral reminder that armies aren't numbers. However, the schooling stuff is also a good idea.

Again, thanks.
I kinda want a government simulation program now, just to see how it would work out :P

HOWEVER

PREQUEL IS AN OUTRAGE AND MUST BE WIPED IMMEDIATELY

Cats can and will take high offense to it and which then you are physically hurting them.

forget you and your overprotective behavior about cats

I'm gonna go accidentally pull on a cat's tail too hard

chonosclub559's govermant

1) everyone must purchase blockland (so they know the history of their government!)
2) you must also own at least 2 doges
3) you must always let your doge go outside
4) you cannot physically hurt anyone or their doges or else you will be fed to the cats
5) you may only vandalize by using non-toxic paints, any other vandalism is led to being fed to the cats
6) you must make your weekly contribution to feeding the cats (aka taxes)
7) all digital content involving arousing material and contains a doge in any way (furries, doges mating, etc) must be removed immediately. Your doges will be offended otherwise which counts as physically hurting them. cats are fine and any other animal thats not a doge (they care about their families, no matter how distant)
8) You may not physically hurt your own doges or else you'll be fed to the cats.
9) you may work any job that people will pay you for, as long as you don't hurt doges or people, or produce arousing material of doges.
10) if i find something wrong with you (aka child enthusiast) you will also be fed to the cats. doges get physically hurt when they know you are loveually aroused by children
11) everyone must participate in at least 3 hours of contributing or viewing loldoges each week

^Chrono's government, improved

forget you and your overprotective behavior about cats

I'm gonna go accidentally pull on a cat's tail too hard
don't be surprised...

when you see this...



next time you come home...

don't be surprised...

when you see this...



next time you come home...

I'm gonna feed them all the dog food and adopt them and water them and take them each on daily walks and buy them some chew bones and pet them to death.

Have a matrix, the end.

they aren't friendly and once they're outside of THE DEN they only want human flesh...

they eat doge food in the den cause then they starve if they don't... -_   -

70% of people shouldn't have control over anyone

It would work as a direct democracy, but during education we'd loving take that stuff srsly. We would implement as many ways to de-douchify those brats so they don't grow up to be handicaps

Problem solved, public is happy etc

bills are adjusted based on 6 groups of income; (poor, fair, average, great, excellent, rich)

Criminals who have been caught(100%) committing massive crimes get the death sentence
-- $80/week to maintain prisoner for 20+ years = lots of money
-- By killing them, you save money

Small businesses get grants yay

Voting: People get to vote for the president and everyone else in power except me, because I am the lord of the country and I have the say of things. But, I don't enforce all of them so my little pal on the smaller seat fills the cracks in.


they aren't friendly and once they're outside of THE DEN they only want human flesh...

they eat doge food in the den cause then they starve if they don't... -_   -

They look very fierce.

he's waiting for a helpless human...

Your input is great, thanks!

It would be cool to have the media involved in finding deciders.
You're right about the amount being defined in the constitution, but the only problem is with inflation and stuff like that. The amount would have to change depending on the state of the economy. However, it could probably be done with a percentage of the GDP or something.
To get this whole thing started you'd have to have a group of deciders already. The deciders would decide on deciders who would decide on deciders, etc.
The idea of the military stuff was to make sure that the people who ended up on top knew exactly what their forces were going through, just as a moral reminder that armies aren't numbers. However, the schooling stuff is also a good idea.

Again, thanks.
I kinda want a government simulation program now, just to see how it would work out :P

thanks, I agree with the percentage thing, I just didn't think of that when I was posting, but I ment the qualifications for elimination so they didn't get elimiated because a private interest group doesn't like them.
i'm not sure what to do about the decider loop, maybe make it a circle?
with the military, I just didn't want to make wartime the only time you could be promoted, thus encouraging war... but maybe it's an irrational fear, idk how militarily minded people think.

Last time I checked, there wasn't a government simulator in existance :P

Before reading this comment, I don't start a flame war, I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible. Please don't let this offend you in some way, it's purely speculative.


To address the OP's corruption issue, fear generally stops that. People generally fear death. Give government the power over one's life and they'll generally won't disobey. However, it's a two-player game. If the people under you feel that the life you're giving them isn't worth living, rebellions will happen. The government needs to treat it's people kindly so they do not have a reason to hate it. However, the government is run by people, and people aren't perfect, so corruption can still exist (ie too much taxation of the Americas cause them to revolt. Otherwise they were mostly content with Britain). A second net of fear is often necessary, to try to catch those pass the first. Religion generally fills that role. Give people a moral system and they'll essentially be "better" people. More than that, give people the idea of an eternal punishment for doing "wrong" and fear will control them. There are a few characteristics this religion should meet (meaning it can't be just any religion) to achieve a non-corruptible state. One, it needs to have doctrine that are peaceful (ie Do not kill people, do not steal, do not rape, etc.) with eternal punishment if broken (Hell, Karma, etc.). And two, people need to truly believe in it to work, including the leaders. This second point is especially paramount. If the people don't truly believe in it, then they don't feel as compelled to follow it and you still have corruption. If the leaders don't truly believe it, and are smart enough to see the opportunity, they'll become more powerful than the government. If the punishment is bad enough, people will do anything they are told to to avoid it. In the hands of a "good" leader, you see times of peace and understanding. In the hands of a "bad" leader, you see the Crusades, Salem Witchcraft Trials, 9/11, Sunni/Shiite Conflict, etc. (I don't mean to single out two religions, I couldn't think of any other events off the top of my head). And while this system of two nets should stop almost all corruption, it won't stop all of it. At this point, most everyone is fear enough for their life (either physical or eternal) to not oppose. However, outliers do exist. If neither system (religion or government) is corrupt and the people are well, this person is labeled "crazy" as there is no reason to rebel (and generally, they are mentally unstable). Those people are then exiled or executed.

The other thing one must consider is the environment this system is in. In a perfect, stable, isolated society, this system should be able to work indefinitely (so long as you can contain the genuinely crazy people). However, every time an outside element is introduced to the system, while the chance is slim, there is always the possibility of the system breaking, especially if you introduce too many at once. Cultural exposure, religion and government not seeing eye-to-eye, opposition to a war, as well as other reason. And though it is a slim chance, it will never go away. The root cause of these issues are disease and famine, two issues that we may never eliminate.

Thomas Malthus does an excellent job of explaining this final point in his essay, the Principle of Population, which is a good read and I recommend.