I'm planning on buying it......and are you calling me a "n00b" because I like to "Try the program before buying it" so that I don't mindlessly waste money on a product I dont like? Another reason I am telling him about that specific version of milkshape is so that he can also see the true potential of milkshape, as nobody would spend 12 hours straight to see what milkshape can do, and not be able to save/export. I also think Wings3d can be a powerful tool but does not have a .dts exporter, of which someone will eventually make an addon for Wings as far as that goes..