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What?
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.
Basically, I believe Evolution and the Big bang to be true, and im basing the belief on fact.

Definition inconsistency, that's all


Some atheists believe in nothing- aka no religion.
But there are atheists who have certain beliefs, like in evolution, the Big Bang, etc. In that sense, some would consider it a religion.
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No.
Atheism is the lack of religion. One can have many beliefs, such as a stance on abortion or taxes, but these don't exactly amount to a religion. Atheists believe the Big bang and evolution happened, but those two events are not religious in any sense, they are purely fact.
I understand what you mean, but to call it a religion is by definition wrong.

I can't prove fully that the Big Bang most definitely occured, nor can I 100% prove evolution (To some the amount of evidence we have is satisfactory but to others it is not), and at the same time I can't even prove the existence of Gravity.
But, I believe, based on some education and logic into the matter, that they are true.
That's a belief. An Atheist belief (Not saying religious people can't believe in any of those same things either though).

But you can't call belief in something to be a religion.
Religion is a belief at it's most basic, but it is also more than that.
Religion starts off with faith in a deity of some sort, or even multiple deities.
It also encompasses some form of ritual.
Christians attend Church, take mass, they may fast, they may pray.
Buddhists may meditate.
Muslims attend Mosque, they have religious festivals and they chant religious songs.

Atheism doesn't have any practises associated with it.
Therefore Atheism is in itself not a religion. And truly, it is not even a belief.
Atheism doesn't define someone who believes in science.
I could be an Atheist who denies every bit of science as well as all religions and not believe in any deity at all.
But I would still be an Atheist even if I have a life completely devoid of any belief at all.


I don't know what standard view on the correct terminology is, but I would reccommend that we refer to the act of believing in anything to be "belief":
e.g: "My belief is that all insects are secretly spying on me."
When we refer to religious belief, I think it's better to make it obvious and seperate by calling it "faith".
e.g: "I have faith that God will watch over me."

What do you mean by like?
Do you agree?
Sorry that it didn't come over so well, but I was being sarcastic.
I probably didn't help by sarcastically stating something which is fales to be true ("And also where CO2 definitely doesn't pollute at all"), and then sarcastically mentioning something that is definitely true to be false ("but also definitely not a poison to animals").

I see what you mean, and I agree with a lot of that as well. If you categorize religion with faith, I can see why you wouldn't include atheism as a belief or religion.
When we refer to religious belief, I think it's better to make it obvious and seperate by calling it "faith".
However, I still do disagree that atheism is strictly the lack of belief (I could be wrong though.) At least according to some sources, like dictionary.com, Atheism is
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the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
But atheism can also be reworded as
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disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

     I know many people see it differently than I do, but I think 'whether or not atheism is a belief,' depends on how you word it.
I think Atheism can be the Belief that there is no God. Or it can be the Lack of a belief in a God.
And I know people disagree with me, I admit that I could be wrong, no need to derail this thread into a debate on the definition of Atheism. lol

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another religion argument

another religion argument
Didn't mean to make it sound like I was arguing, sorry if it did. I was planning on explaining my thinking and then leaving the subject alone, hence why I said that I know I could be wrong.

I see what you mean, and I agree with a lot of that as well. If you categorize religion with faith, I can see why you wouldn't include atheism as a belief or religion. However, I still do disagree that atheism is strictly the lack of belief (I could be wrong though.) At least according to some sources, like dictionary.com, Atheism is  But atheism can also be reworded as  
     I know many people see it differently than I do, but I think 'whether or not atheism is a belief,' depends on how you word it.
I think Atheism can be the Belief that there is no God. Or it can be the Lack of a belief in a God.
And I know people disagree with me, I admit that I could be wrong, no need to derail this thread into a debate on the definition of Atheism. lol
If Atheism is a religion, than being healthy is a disease.

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