Abortion - Pro-life or Pro-choice

[Destiny/Zack0Wack0]

Um, people are rapping each other all the time. Have you not paid attention to music in the last 25 years or so?

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[BanishedLetters]

Um, people are rapping each other all the time. Have you not paid attention to music in the last 25 years or so?

Oh god lol that's the best spelling error I've seen all day.

[Mr. Jelly]

Um, people are rapping each other all the time. Have you not paid attention to music in the last 25 years or so?

[Daedalus]

Well the whole point of love is to produce offspring sooo fail.

I'm still pro-life, with the choice of sending the baby to be adopted. you're the type of person who wants overpopulation. nice.

[Gartanium]

I hope your trolling, if so thats still pretty sick. How about you go to China for a while man? They murder millions to keep population down. You would fit right in.
"However in 2008, there were an estimated 13 million abortions performed, and approximately 10 million abortion pills sold"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_China

[Kalphiter]

I hope your trolling, if so thats still pretty sick. How about you go to China for a while man? They murder millions to keep population down. You would fit right in.

There's a difference between "oh forget, it's not a male" and "oh forget, accidental child". You also don't mention that the pills are early pregnancy.

I also love how you mentioned earlier a fact that stated the rate of poor women's unintended pregnancies rose (poor, so what kind of life do you expect these children to have?). You're killing yourself so hard it's hilarious.

[Otis Da HousKat]

I hope your trolling, if so thats still pretty sick. How about you go to China for a while man? They murder millions to keep population down. You would fit right in.
"However in 2008, there were an estimated 13 million abortions performed, and approximately 10 million abortion pills sold"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_China

Ya, and they have to have so many abortions because they let their population grow unchecked for too long.

There's a difference between "oh forget, it's not a male" and "oh forget, accidental child".

Oh ya, I forgot about that trend.

[Böltster]

They forms of love by human definition, but they're not "love."

love has a special feel to it that I'm sure those of us who have experienced can attest to.

Plus there's a reason people have love other than procreation, and even more than just feeling good. It's a spiritual, symbolic thing. I'm not going to go into an explanation of that or anything, but to deny people the ability or the right to that is nonsense.

they are by definition forms of love, you were wrong to say there aren't different forms.

by common definition we assume "love" is vaginal intercourse. the rest of your post is irrelevant, i just wanted to correct you on that.

[Destiny/Zack0Wack0]

1. If you made a mistake of creating a child, then you should at least give the child away to a child adoption agency. You know, the semi responsible thing?
2. I'm pretty sure its not up to us if a child would rather die or go through a life of hating/suffering etc.
3. Like I said, The godless part meant that when crime is so rampant that people rape each other left and right.
4. Everyone suffers some what, you can't just go through this life not suffering. By the way, totaly not justifing rape, even though some one will asume/say I am.
5. Horrible things happen to people in order to punish the wicked. We all have our agency, and some times the innocent must suffer, but there reward will be far greater in the end.

1. That is a good decision to make, but it should be a decision to make.
2. The child can't make decisions yet.
3. It implied you were bringing God into this, the way you used it. I am sorry if you weren't.
4. Yes, but it depends on the context. If you are bringing God into this, a benevolent being would not allow one particular person to suffer a massive blow while the rest of the people trudge through with a massive salary in their life. Even if you're not bringing God into this, suffering can be removed by giving someone the choice to abort their baby. It should be a choice.
5. Yep, the reward will be being part of the very universe that you exist in currently, floating throughout nature as the atoms of other life, stars and planets.

[Gartanium]

There's a difference between "oh forget, it's not a male" and "oh forget, accidental child".

I also love how you mentioned earlier a fact that stated the rate of poor women's unintended pregnancies rose (poor, so what kind of life do you expect these children to have?). You're killing yourself so hard it's hilarious.

You think that its our choice to decide if some one would rather live poor the be dead? What a joke. Did you know that there is more to life than having money?
It is hard to be poor, though. Hunger, clothes... etc. you have to go with out. Its also hard to be unloved. I don't remember the name of the only North Korean to have escaped from the political prisons, but being in Communist North Korea's prison camp as a child, he had no parents to care for him, and he was barely fed. Guess what. He enjoys living. By your agruement he should have just be aborted because he was going to be poor and with out a family.

[Kalphiter]

It is hard to be poor, though. Hunger, clothes... etc. you have to go with out. Its also hard to be unloved. I don't remember the name of the only North Korean to have escaped from the political prisons, but being in Communist North Korea's prison camp as a child, he had no parents to care for him, and he was barely fed. Guess what. He enjoys living. By your agruement he should have just be aborted because he was going to be poor and with out a family.

I guess you suddenly had amnesia that North Korea has a population of more than 1 person. I bet the rest doesn't meet its chance and lives and dies poor and hungry.

[Swholli]

Holy crap, you sound like you don't care about the reproductive rights of men at all. That's disgusting.

I don't believe that after the man has laid his seed it's up to him any more.

Is it as much his choice in a marriage or other relationship as a woman's? Of course, if it's his genetic code he obviously has full disclosure over his own child; but that's not my point.

I'm talking about the national decision. An abortion does not happen to the man, it is separate and  unrelated to a snake. He has no consequence during the abortion.

It takes two to make a baby, but only one has to go through the abortion.

[Gartanium]

1. That is a good decision to make, but it should be a decision to make.
2. The child can't make decisions yet.
3. It implied you were bringing God into this, the way you used it. I am sorry if you weren't.
4. Yes, but it depends on the context. If you are bringing God into this, a benevolent being would not allow one particular person to suffer a massive blow while the rest of the people trudge through with a massive salary in their life. Even if you're not bringing God into this, suffering can be removed by giving someone the choice to abort their baby. It should be a choice.
5. Yep, the reward will be being part of the very universe that you exist in currently, floating throughout nature as the atoms of other life, stars and planets.

1 & 2. This reminds me of slavery. The white plantaion owners were so "smart" that they could make decesions for their slaves. Sorry, my guess is that those plantaion owners were not out for the best intrests of the child.
Do you really think that some one who made the careless mistake of creating an unwanted child is really the kind of person who will care for it?
3. I was but I was also trying to imply when everyone is so wicked that they are criminals disregarding everyone else's well being.

Redoing 4a: God deals us a hand in life. What we do with our hand we have been dealt is what we gain in the life to come.
4b: With out thinking about this in the context of a god, think about this. If there is no god, then if you abort a baby, it will have no life ever again. A life of suffering is no fun life, but it is better then no life at all. Who are you to decide if some one would rather suffer or live. Who are we to decide some one will have a horrible life because we didn't abort them. Because we decided to make a "mistake" and create them. To be honest, any one who does that is probley releiving them selves of that burden. If they made the mistake in the first place, the selfish mistake of having the child, do you really honestly think they will make the SELFLESS choice? My guess is that they will make the SELFISH choice, like they did before, and abort the baby.

[Böltster]

It takes two to make a baby, but only one has to go through the abortion.

um emotionally i'm sure it would effect both, and i've seen it affect both.

and i'd sure as hell want to have a say in the decision considering (over here at least) i'm legally bound to financially support the baby.

[Kalphiter]

1 & 2. This reminds me of slavery. The white plantaion owners were so "smart" that they could make decesions for their slaves. Sorry, my guess is that those plantaion owners were not out for the best intrests of the child.
Do you really think that some one who made the careless mistake of creating an unwanted child is really the kind of person who will care for it?

One problem, the slaves would've actually been capable of their own decisions, had they been given the education. Bingo, you're killing yourself again. If they made the careless mistake, they may or may not have care for the child, so where will the child go?

3. I was but I was also trying to imply when everyone is so wicked that they are criminals disregarding everyone else's well being.

You somehow draw the conclusion that that's the definition of "godless".