Author Topic: Abortion - Pro-life or Pro-choice  (Read 12532 times)

Well the whole point of love is to produce offspring sooo
so people don't do it because it feels good then in your mind?

so people don't do it because it feels good then in your mind?
Yeah, it's okay to do it if it feels good (as long as it isnt rape), but expect a chance you will produce offspring. It's not like it's bad thing anyway.

I'm still pro-life, with the choice of sending the baby to be adopted.
What if the child will have a disorder/disease where it'll know nothing but pain and misery?

What if the child will have a disorder/disease where it'll know nothing but pain and misery?
Make it less painful and misery-ful. If I had a son that was born with disease of some sort, I would want him to live his life or cure him if possible.

Make it less painful and misery-ful. If I had a son that was born with disease of some sort, I would want him to live his life or cure him if possible.
Youre an idiot living in a fantasy world

Youre an idiot living in a fantasy world
Who is Youre? Unless you mean "you're", remember it IS an opinion.

Who is Youre? Unless you mean "you're", remember it IS an opinion.
No I meant youre, I rarely use apostrophes. Anyone with even a basic understanding of grammar would have realized that "Youre an" would make no sense with 'Youre' as a proper noun.

oral, brown town and vaginal love are all forms of love

They forms of love by human definition, but they're not "love."

love has a special feel to it that I'm sure those of us who have experienced can attest to.

Plus there's a reason people have love other than procreation, and even more than just feeling good. It's a spiritual, symbolic thing. I'm not going to go into an explanation of that or anything, but to deny people the ability or the right to that is nonsense.

Its funny, in the United States, the minority with out a vote (slaves, women, aborted babies) tend to lose, while a majority with a vote( White plantation owners(Southerners(Democrats)), tribals in the south(white democrats), and those to gain from abortion(partiers(democrats))) get the benefits from minorities with out a vote.

Aborted babies will never get a chance to vote. So why should we legaly and MORRALY be able to kill them? The only times I beleive it is acceptable is when 1. A girl is raped and 2. Both the mother and child will die for sure if the baby is not aborted. The problem with both these clauses, how ever, is that people take advantage of them in ways they should not.
statistics are fun, arn't they?

• Nearly half of all pregnancies among American women are unintended, and four in 10 of these end in abortion.[1]
 
• About half of American women will have an unintended pregnancy, [2] and nearly one-third will have an abortion, by age 45.[3]
 
• The overall U.S. unintended pregnancy rate remained stagnant between 1994 and 2006, but unintended pregnancy increased 50% among poor women, while decreasing 29% among higher-income women.[1]
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

I love this next website. I also love how I guessed the statistics pretty well.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html
Its about why people get abortions in the U.S. Its pretty neat.


So any one seriously think these people are getting abortions for medical needs? lol. Any one really think there is that many rapes in the U.S.? Were not that godless yet...


I thought I should also mention one thing. To any one about to use "Don't trust internet!", what a joke. How, mr. wise guy, can you trust a book but not the internet..? How can you trust your teacher and not the internet?? Any one can make a book. Any one can make an internet article.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2012, 09:38:05 PM by Gartanium »

(partiers(democrats)))

That is the biggest and most offensive generalization I have ever heard. Just assuming that all of us who identify with Democrats are instantly irresponsible, uncivilized, rioters (or as you put it, partiers), is just horrible.

Also:

women

They're the one's who's rights we're defending, not some unborn non-child. You're playing the sympathy card when you bring up that whole "why does mommy hate me when she aborts me?" argument.

This is a woman's issue, yet it's being fought over by men.

You claim to be the champion of women's rights? Then fine, you as a non-child bearer, shall have no say nor vote. Let the ones who actually birth babies make the choice.

I'm pro-life as forget, but if a group solely consisted of women (of all persuasions and situations) agreed that abortion was wrong, I'd support them 100%, because as a man I can never know anything about that issue.

You know I would think that the slavery one was more offensive. I don't mean to generalize it so much, but let me pull up some more fun statistics.
Now I think of it, your right that was offensive.

oh this "this is a women's issue" Uhhhhh no. It takes a men and a women to make a baby. Unless I'm wrong. Which you know, I'm not. Also, I'm pretty sure this is the aborted babies issue as well.


I am a  champion of everyones rights. If a women is infringing on the natural rights of a baby, I will be upset.


Edit: I was going to look up some statistics on democrats being partiers but then I realised. Who believes in the legalization of weed? Who believes in do what ever they want, have the government provide for them, and then not pay for any consequences that they make (ex health care).


-again sorry for any generalizations that don't apply to you. Obviously some one can believe in some democratic beliefs but not agree with the rest.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2012, 10:32:45 PM by Gartanium »

You claim to be the champion of women's rights? Then fine, you as a non-child bearer, shall have no say nor vote. Let the ones who actually birth babies make the choice.

I'm pro-life as forget, but if a group solely consisted of women (of all persuasions and situations) agreed that abortion was wrong, I'd support them 100%, because as a man I can never know anything about that issue.
Holy crap, you sound like you don't care about the reproductive rights of men at all. That's disgusting.

So any one seriously think these people are getting abortions for medical needs? lol. Any one really think there is that many rapes in the U.S.?
Oh sweet Jebus there's no way people actually want to control their own body other than times when it was forced upon them is there? I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to prevent a lifetime of regret and hate of a child they didn't want and couldn't look after in a secure family, or possibly couldn't even afford.
Were not that godless yet...
Oh of course, that makes sense. Rather than God stopping the rape, he'll start leaving more and more as the rape rate grows until there are billions of rapists on Earth raping everybody and causing everyone to suffer for the rest of their life, in their nightmares and thoughts. Oh but it's O.K. women, God loves you with an inexplicable passion, but make sure you go through a lifetime of suffering before you come to Heaven! Make sure you don't get raped or a woman or nothin', cause that'd be totally queer and the devil would have to take you then.

EDIT: Oh and don't forget, God will be their every step of the way as that man rapes you to an inch away from death. God won't do anything though, it's all part of his plan, he'll just sit there and watch you, O.K.?
« Last Edit: June 16, 2012, 09:50:25 PM by Destiny/Zack0Wack0 »

Uhhhh WHAT? I was saying that crime isn't so bad that people are rapping each other. Sorry, your arguement is so confusing that I'm not sure you even know where your getting at?


Ok lets take this one step at a time.
1. If you made a mistake of creating a child, then you should at least give the child away to a child adoption agency. You know, the semi responsible thing?
2. I'm pretty sure its not up to us if a child would rather die or go through a life of hating/suffering etc.
3. Like I said, The godless part meant that when crime is so rampant that people rape each other left and right.
4. Everyone suffers some what, you can't just go through this life not suffering. By the way, totaly not justifing rape, even though some one will asume/say I am.
5. Horrible things happen to people in order to punish the wicked. We all have our agency, and some times the innocent must suffer, but there reward will be far greater in the end.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2012, 09:54:19 PM by Gartanium »

Uhhhh WHAT? I was saying that crime isn't so bad that people are rapping each other.
Um, people are rapping each other all the time. Have you not paid attention to music in the last 25 years or so?