Abortion - Pro-life or Pro-choice

[Man 2]

Shown here: Genocide-In-A-Bottle

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[Mr. Jelly]

i can't help it, my boyfriend made me love richards ;(

Did he do it with buttsecks

[PowerDag]

i don't think a woman would want soap in her cunt.

yes, jelly.

[Katadeus]

Events are not set in stone. Everyone has free will. Time is not a set path. But if you believe that all things are set in stone, then that means you are religious. There is no scientific evidence of everything being pre-determined.

There is only one possible set of events. Everything is simply down to the particles, and interaction between particles can only have one result.
I don't know about quantum particles or anything, but nothing is random.
If we had all information in the universe, with a supernaturally powerful computer, we could predict the future exactly.
This is my argument as a non-religious person.

[Mr. Jelly]

yes, jelly.

srsly

[Harm94]

aren't you pro life? birth control prevents life..?

I haven't fully stated where I am. Now if I had a daughter who I said if she ends up having love with someone to atleast have the male wear a condom so she doesn't get pregnant in the first place and instead choses to have bare love and ends up getting pregnant I will make her go through those nine months because she had the option to use one piece of latex. Now if she was raped I would leave that option up to her. So basically she has the right to have love at +18, but under by roof or until age 21 she doesn't have the right how she does it.

As for birth control and spermicide, its like spraying weed killer over barren soil.

[Böltster]

I haven't fully stated where I am. Now if I had a daughter who I said if she ends up having love with someone to atleast have the male wear a condom so she doesn't get pregnant in the first place and instead choses to have bare love and ends up getting pregnant I will make her go through those nine months because she had the option to use one piece of latex. Now if she was raped I would leave that option up to her. So basically she has the right to have love at +18, but under by roof or until age 21 she doesn't have the right how she does it.

As for birth control and spermicide, its like spraying weed killer over barren soil.

going to make a horrible father.

[Menen]

As for birth control and spermicide, its like spraying weed killer over barren soil.

so.. sterile?

[Harm94]

so.. sterile?

It keeps it sterile so nothing can grow in the first place. Which means nothing came to life or died.

going to make a horrible father.

We'll see. I guess you would give your kids consent at early age without teaching them that there are percussions for their actions.

[Böltster]

We'll see.

my girlfriends father follows your logic. does it stop us having love? no.

taking a hard line towards love as a parent doesn't work. saying "you can't have love until you're 18" won't actually prevent your teenager doing it, all it will prevent is them doing it with you knowing.

as a parent you have two options
do you allow them to do it safely and be able to come to you with problems?
or
do you disallow it and have them do it behind your back, and make is so they can't come to you if they need help?

[Harm94]

The +18 part is a reference to the US law where it says you can't give consent. Like my Criminal Justice teacher said, "Your parents can't give consent, but if you are going to have love atleast wear a condom."

[Böltster]

I guess you would give your kids consent at early age without teaching them that there are percussions for their actions.

What would I do?

I would teach them about love at an early age. when they get to the age of 15, i'll sit them down and tell them it's ok, as long as they're doing it safely. i'd even let them do it in my house.

that way, i know they're in a safe environment, having safe love, and that they know they can come to me with any problems. liberal i know, but better than your "sticking head in the sand" method.

The +18 part is a reference to the US law where it says you can't give consent. Like my Criminal Justice teacher said, "Your parents can't give consent, but if you are going to have love atleast wear a condom."

my point still stands. your idea of parenting when it comes to love is the definition of ignorance. teenagers are going to have love, whether you like it or not. better you allow it and have some control than disallow and have none.

[Katadeus]

Agreed Bolt.

[fred da kiko]

bolster makes a good point. not allowing a person do do something they like at an age where they want to rebel will end up in them rebelling. saying "you can forget but make sure you wear a condom so you don't have a little asshat running around" is a much better solution because it makes it more likely that they will have safe love. That goes for just about anything. It's the main reason why people in the states get hammered at a young age more than people in other countries.

[CopBlock]

choice, only stupid people say life lol