Author Topic: Mass shooting at Batman premiere [3 month old & 6 year old dead]  (Read 19332 times)



Regardless, I think he means Seventh and morning are stirring up stuff irreverently

Most people are trolls, you realize this, right?
I'm a forum idiot? When did I ever say I liked the shooting at the Colorado theater? Either I'm reading this out of context and you somehow think I'm happy a bunch of people got shot watching a batman movie, or you're just using my presence in this thread as an opportunity to insult me.

In the latter case, you're deliberately following me around to rag on me for some reason, which is against the rules and people have been banned for doing that. I suggest you stop.
First off, I wasn't talking about the people who are making jokes about it or laughing about what happened. Who cares about that? I'm talking about SeventhSandwich, who is blaming all of crime on mental illnesses, most of which probably don't exist/are exaggerated and overdiagnosed. Then there is morningstar who thinks that we should just kill everyone that commits a crime, no matter the circumstance. There was also some idiot who was saying that the crowd should just tackle him. You couldn't coordinate that and it probably would have just resulted in more deaths. Admittedly SeventhSandwich was arguing against these idiots, but his logic was broken most of the time.
There were a couple of other idiots with stupid ideas, but they didn't post a ton, so I don't remember their names either.

And don't flatter yourself by thinking I'm chasing you around just to insult you. I know I've insulted you before, because you are an idiot, but I don't do it every post, its always related to the thread, and when was the last time I insulted you anyway?

Regardless, I think he means Seventh and morning are stirring up stuff irreverently
No, not really. I don't care if stuff gets stirred up. Especially if it is some controversial argument. I was just pointing out that whenever something crazy happens, the forum idiots always come out and show their stupid opinion.

First off, I wasn't talking about the people who are making jokes about it or laughing about what happened. Who cares about that? I'm talking about SeventhSandwich, who is blaming all of crime on mental illnesses, most of which probably don't exist/are exaggerated and overdiagnosed. Then there is morningstar who thinks that we should just kill everyone that commits a crime, no matter the circumstance. There was also some idiot who was saying that the crowd should just tackle him. You couldn't coordinate that and it probably would have just resulted in more deaths. Admittedly SeventhSandwich was arguing against these idiots, but his logic was broken most of the time.
There were a couple of other idiots with stupid ideas, but they didn't post a ton, so I don't remember their names either.
Okay first of all, what's your authority on the veracity of psychology? A hunch? You are not a psychiatrist nor do I think you have any knowledge of how the insanity defense works and the factors the law system takes into consideration before acquitting someone by reason of insanity. Go get a degree in Psychology and then we'll talk.

Second of all, you are blatantly over exaggerating my perspective on the insanity defense in law. People like Ted Kaczynski, who murdered many people but were evaluated but weren't found to be mentally ill to the point they weren't in control of their decisions, wouldn't be able to use the insanity defense to be acquitted. Furthermore, it doesn't even matter because the insanity defense is used in less than 1% of cases, it only works 27% of the time, and 90% of the acquitted had been diagnosed with a mental illness prior to the crime. Here's his psychological evaluation: http://www.paulcooijmans.com/psychology/unabombreport.html (edited, original link was wrong)
Edit 2: I used this source as the basis of my entire argument which even says that it's used less than 1% of the time in all cases, and you're saying that I'm blaming all crime on mental illnesses? Are you out of your mind Tylale?
And don't flatter yourself by thinking I'm chasing you around just to insult you. I know I've insulted you before, because you are an idiot, but I don't do it every post, its always related to the thread, and when was the last time I insulted you anyway?
You weren't even being relevant to the thread when you posted. You just said that controversial issues cause, "forum idiots" to start saying stupid things. This isn't relevant and you deliberately wrote me and morningstar's name to target us. There is no possible way to view this to make it seem relevant to the thread.

I'm not going to bother arguing further on the efficacy of the insanity defense because you are convinced you know everything about mental illnesses and how they are over diagnosed without any experience in the field.

Get a grip dude, you aren't an expert in anything you're talking about.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2012, 12:53:00 PM by SeventhSandwich »

So If I had the intent to blow up an orphanage with knowledge of what I was doing I could get away with it?
« Last Edit: July 22, 2012, 02:21:38 PM by Harm94 »

"Never watching this movie." -paranoid parrot


mm check please
What a cigarette her joke was funny
« Last Edit: July 22, 2012, 03:08:02 PM by Pixel »

Now because of this shooting, soccer moms will try to get Batman banned.

well deadmou5 sucks anyway

We'll have to shoot up a something as guy dressed up as a soccer mom, then they'll try to ban themselves.

Okay first of all, what's your authority on the veracity of psychology? A hunch? You are not a psychiatrist nor do I think you have any knowledge of how the insanity defense works and the factors the law system takes into consideration before acquitting someone by reason of insanity. Go get a degree in Psychology and then we'll talk.

Second of all, you are blatantly over exaggerating my perspective on the insanity defense in law. People like Ted Kaczynski, who murdered many people but were evaluated but weren't found to be mentally ill to the point they weren't in control of their decisions, wouldn't be able to use the insanity defense to be acquitted. Furthermore, it doesn't even matter because the insanity defense is used in less than 1% of cases, it only works 27% of the time, and 90% of the acquitted had been diagnosed with a mental illness prior to the crime. Here's his psychological evaluation: http://www.paulcooijmans.com/psychology/unabombreport.html (edited, original link was wrong)
Edit 2: I used this source as the basis of my entire argument which even says that it's used less than 1% of the time in all cases, and you're saying that I'm blaming all crime on mental illnesses? Are you out of your mind Tylale?You weren't even being relevant to the thread when you posted. You just said that controversial issues cause, "forum idiots" to start saying stupid things. This isn't relevant and you deliberately wrote me and morningstar's name to target us. There is no possible way to view this to make it seem relevant to the thread.

I'm not going to bother arguing further on the efficacy of the insanity defense because you are convinced you know everything about mental illnesses and how they are over diagnosed without any experience in the field.

Get a grip dude, you aren't an expert in anything you're talking about.

You read everything I said wrong. I wasn't talking about the legal part. I was talking about how you seem to think that mental illness causes all crime.
Look at all these posts you've made about him having a mental illness when there were no signs of it. He was some doctor guy studying neuroscience or something. He might have had a mental illness, but I doubt it.
He shouldn't. He almost certainly has a mental illness and it's our fault that nobody looked at this guy who was probably a social outcast or had symptoms of depression and told him to get a psychiatric evaluation.
They are really messed up, which is directly a consequence of insufficient psychiatric evaluation by people like school counselors who see these people when they are already mental ill.

These kinds of shootings would never occur if people were properly diagnosed for things like Schizophrenia and depression.
In this case though, in the next few days we're going to see The Joker has a mental illness and he will be locked up in an asylum for psychiatric treatment like he should be.

Blame the school counselors and parents who let his entire childhood go by without seeing he had some kind of mental illness until it was too late and he bought a gun and shot a bunch of people.

In the case this is some kind of terrorism that was deliberately plotted out by Holmes,  I wouldn't oppose execution. There's no evidence for that yet and he still needs a trial.
I don't know, shooting a bunch of children and people while wearing a gas mask and throwing a bunch of smoke grenades the second the film starts sounds pretty psychopathic to me.
You're blaming what he did on mental illness when there is no reason to do so. You seem to think that every shooting that ever happened was caused by a mental illness when a lot of them aren't.

I never said I know everything about mental illnesses. I just know that there are so many people prescribed with depression that it can't possibly be correctly diagnosed. There's also a lot of people who are diagnosed with ADHD or ADD and they don't have it and I'm not convinced that disease is real, but I'm not sure that is even a mental illness.

Also this is relevant to the thread because I'm calling you out for things said in this thread. If I were to come into this topic yelling at you because you killed my dog 4 years ago, that would be irrelevant.


Haven't read all the pages, but I think that maybe life sentences in prison with no bail in maximum security would be better than just killing the guy.
When you kill him, it's done in a split second, unless you torture him, which is illegal, so why should he not suffer in prison instead of just dying so fast.
He's young, and I guarantee 50 years in prison or however long he lives, would work out better than killing him on the spot.

If someone said this before, I apologize, just restating it, as I only read about 7 pages, not all 20+.

I wonder if they will get their money back.