Author Topic: An idea I had for v21 that will put arguing to an end.  (Read 1675 times)

So, we're on the brink of having v21 come in with its shaders, and having the terrains/interiors maps knocked out for good. There's a lot of arguing over this; if you don't believe me, you can check the thread in Development about v21. But what if we could please both sides?

That's why I want you to delay v21 a bit so you can work on making the shaders optional.

Now, hear me out, because you're probably thinking that this is crazy, or maybe you were planning on it. But what I'm trying to suggest here is a simple add-on to v21 that will allow those  who want shaders to have them, and for those who want terrain to keep and enjoy the terrain/interior maps.

In Graphics options, you should add a check-box that is titled as "Enable Shaders". Uncheck the box, and the terrain/interior maps will be open for you to play on. Check it, and those maps will be locked. You can't enter a server that's on a terrain/interior map if you have Shaders checked off, but you can if you don't.

Hopefully by now, you're getting my idea.

Of course, there will be criticism.
  • "You can't do this with Blockland."
  • "Just build the terrain."
  • "There is a perfectly fine Terrain add-on you can download."
  • "It won't look pretty."
  • "It'll make absolutely no sense for slate maps to have shaders and terrain maps will not."

But, I'm here to beat down those points as well.
  • Judging by what we CAN do in Blockland, I find this a lie.
  • I want to have a Fort Wars server. You expect me to build the endless amount of terrain required for it?
  • That terrain isn't natural terrain. It's just a bunch of wedges and flat pieces.
  • Some people don't WANT it to be pretty, because they want a very great game gameplay-wise, not a graphics powerhouse.
  • This is a game. Things don't have to make sense. You think that in real life, you can hit an object with a wrench and have a loaded gun pop out of it?

And yes, I can expect that this is on the wrong forum. But think; do you have any idea how many more people will view this than if it were on Suggestions? Do you think Badspot would view this if it were on the right forum, as compared to if he had to move it because it was on the wrong forum?

Think about this. Because sometimes things on terrain are more beautiful than shaded things.








Comments and criticism appreciated.

How will this put arguing to an end?

as it has been said before; adding in the shaders is just a side addition of remodeling the whole game engine.

that means the engine will be completely different and cannot support interiors/terrain. its not an issue of "shaders make terrain/interiors laggy/unbearable/impossible to support"


on the first pic you could easily put that windows logo on slate by loading it
on the last pic, that mountain is ugly and that tower is on a flat textured surface

Just do a fork.

There will be v20r# for every revision enabling terrain and no shaders, and v21r# for every revision enabling shaders and no terrain.

It's almost like the Python versioning system, it is forked.

Well that's just great.

All my builds are going to get deleted, as well as all my favorite servers, so I might as well just quit blockland.

Bye, guys.


Sorry about that, didn't see Axolotl's post.

Soooo...
Just do a fork.

There will be v20r# for every revision enabling terrain and no shaders, and v21r# for every revision enabling shaders and no terrain.

It's almost like the Python versioning system, it is forked.
Might sound stupid here, but I don't know how to do that.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 05:38:36 PM by Tactical Nuke »

Well that's just great.

All my builds are going to get deleted, as well as all my favorite servers, so I might as well just quit blockland.

Bye, guys.
/facepalm

stop being afraid of change. terrains and interiors provide hardly anything to gameplay and there's not much you can do with them you can't do with bricks.

the only pros i can see are vehicle physics, being infinite, and certain shapes that can't be made as well with (default) bricks

Sorry but after the preview Badspot posted today, I never want to see interiors or terrain again.

Well that's just great.

All my builds are going to get deleted, as well as all my favorite servers, so I might as well just quit blockland.

Bye, guys.
Nice goodbye post.

Well that's just great.

All my builds are going to get deleted, as well as all my favorite servers, so I might as well just quit blockland.

Bye, guys.
you should be worried about it when it does happen because you don't know that they will be deleted. saves can be imported from any terrain/interior map onto slate very easily.

Why the forget would you want the code to be even more obfuscated than it already is? This has been suggested at least 100 times before you, and it will never happen. Terrain and interiors are getting removed. Deal with it.
Well that's just great.

All my builds are going to get deleted, as well as all my favorite servers, so I might as well just quit blockland.

Bye, guys.
Your builds will be fine, your favorite servers will need to actually build things (OH NO NOT BUILDING,) and leaving is your own choice. Farewell.

All my builds are going to get deleted, as well as all my favorite servers, so I might as well just quit blockland.
Bye, guys.
I honestly hope you get banned for this

No. I only needed to read the first sentence to realize this was a definite no.