Author Topic: Meth: Not Even Once  (Read 3396 times)

Maybe because its the same thing?
Don't do Meth, it won't kill the judes!

Let me make a point from the video we all just watched. Why did every single person in that video try meth? Because it's "cool". Why is it cool? Something called the Forbidden Fruit Theory. People think it's cool and edgy to do drugs because it's illegal. when people legalize drugs it looses the whole "cool factor" and everyone stops giving a stuff and move on to the next edgy thing.
And the people who already did it will let the people who are clean get into it because there is absolutely no consequence to it.

That's like saying people would stop doing crack because it's legal. Or how guns becoming legal would stop all the cool gangster kids from using them.

The cycle continues with or without whatever coolness factor is implemented on the way.

Don't do Meth, it won't kill the judes!
Way to oversimplify something.

Way to oversimplify something.
Way to not get words across to other people on the internet, especially when making an unfavorable argument (unfavorable means against the common opinion)

okay so he compared it to something that was similar to it

and you don't get any sort of underlying meaning of it?

And the people who already did it will let the people who are clean get into it because there is absolutely no consequence to it.

That's like saying people would stop doing crack because it's legal. Or how guns becoming legal would stop all the cool gangster kids from using them.

The cycle continues with or without whatever coolness factor is implemented on the way.
Thats an awful comparison. If you make guns illegal, law breakers don't just hand in their guns, only law abiding citizens do. That leaves them vulnerable to assault and home invasion and the like.

Also, Why do you think "the people who already did it" started? Its not like they were alive before methamphetamine was banned quite some time ago.

Way to not get words across to other people on the internet, especially when making an unfavorable argument (unfavorable means against the common opinion)
Alright, Sorry. Even I know I'm being pretty abrasive. Sometimes it's a necessity. Anyways, Riddler came into power because he was an advertising genius. He told people what they wanted to hear about how germans were gyped after WWI and how they had to get back what they deserved. I think you can fill in the rest.

Thats an awful comparison. If you make guns illegal, law breakers don't just hand in their guns, only law abiding citizens do. That leaves them vulnerable to assault and home invasion and the like.

Also, Why do you think "the people who already did it" started? Its not like they were alive before methamphetamine was banned quite some time ago.
And if you make drugs legal, people who market them won't just go bankrupt because it's not the hot new illegal thing on the market.

And what makes you assume people who have it in easy access now won't pass it on in bigger number than before? The effects of drugs don't change because of their legal stance?

the only one that makes me feel really disturbed is the one with the guy and his mom
;-;
same, I just stopped the video after that one not wanting to go on :(

I've always thought that in some ways making these <insert drug> illegal laws are pointless, because I know fair and well that those will not stop these druggies doing any illegal action. Sadly in this day and age people think that doing illegal/dangerous things makes them part of the "cool" crowd.

I hate it and I want to kill it with fire.

I shouldn't of clicked on that ad.
I shouldn't of asked for my mom's credit card.
I shouldn't of hit that "Install" button.
I shouldn't of entered my key.

I should of bought Builders Club.

And if you make drugs legal, people who market them won't just go bankrupt because it's not the hot new illegal thing on the market.

And what makes you assume people who have it in easy access now won't pass it on in bigger number than before? The effects of drugs don't change because of their legal stance?
Because the statistics say so.

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REFERENCE: L. Johnson et al. 1981. Marijuana Decriminalization: The Impact on Youth 1975-1980. Monitoring the Future, Occasional Paper Series: Paper No. 13. Institute for Social Research, University of Michigan.

Citizens who live under decriminalization laws consume marijuana at rates less than or comparable to those who live in regions where the possession of marijuana remains a criminal offense.

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REFERENCE: E. Single et al. 2000. The Impact of Cannabis Decriminalization in Australia and the United States. Journal of Public Health Policy 21: 157-186.

There is no evidence that marijuana decriminalization affects either the choice or frequency of use of drugs, either legal (such as alcohol) or illegal (such as marijuana and cocaine).

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REFERENCE: C. Thies and C. Register. 1993. Decriminalization of marijuana and demand for alcohol, marijuana and cocaine. The Social Sciences Journal 30: 385-399.

States and regions that have maintained the strictest criminal penalties for marijuana possession have experienced the largest proportionate increase in use.

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REFERENCE: Connecticut Law Review Commission. 1997. Drug Policy in Connecticut and Strategy Options: Report to the Judiciary Committee of the Connecticut Assembly. State Capitol: Hartford.

Rates of hard drug use (illicit drugs other than marijuana) among emergency room patients are substantially higher in states that have not decriminalized marijuana use. Experts speculate that this is because the lack of decriminalization may encourage the greater use of drugs that are even more dangerous than marijuana.

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REFERENCE: K. Model. 1993. The effect of marijuana decriminalization on hospital emergency room episodes: 1975-1978. Journal of the American Statistical Association 88: 737-747 as cited by the National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base, 103.

Source: http://norml.org/marijuana/personal/item/marijuana-decriminalization-talking-points-2#point3

I have more wonderful real world statistics if you like.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2012, 11:21:12 PM by dorkdotdan »

The one of the father abusing the mom was horrible.
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The one of the father abusing the mom was horrible.
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He wasn't abusing her. He was holding her back so she didn't answer the door and let there druggie of a son in for money and stuff for drugs.

Marajuana, a non addictive drug versus Meth, a life ruiner among many other things.

You're basically saying all drugs are okay because people are lax with decriminalization (not even legalization) of a plant?
Your argument has shifted from people doing whatever they want to themselves with a single drug.
This argument would have been pretty valid if it was about crack, cocaine, ice (the big time stuff that you wanted legalized anyways)

I found only one hint on what your argument started at:
Rates of hard drug use (illicit drugs other than marijuana) among emergency room patients are substantially higher in states that have not decriminalized marijuana use. Experts speculate that this is because the lack of decriminalization may encourage the greater use of drugs that are even more dangerous than marijuana.

And even then, this proves that marijuana was the root (pun intended) of all evil.
And again, this deals with decriminalizing, which isn't legalization.

So unless your point was "People should be able to do whatever they want to themselves, therefore things should be decriminalized (not legal in any form; still allows such drugs to be fined/ permitted if caught with use) and be treated of their addiction instead of having rabid coke-heads running on the streets." I'm at a loss.

EDIT: But yeah, i think I'll go to bed. It's obvious your idea for the greater good rests within "what if's" and "maybe so's"
« Last Edit: August 19, 2012, 11:33:59 PM by Aces »

He wasn't abusing her. He was holding her back so she didn't answer the door and let there druggie of a son in for money and stuff for drugs.
God I'm so behind today.
I didn't really understand any of them