Author Topic: Déjà vu and my agnostic thoughts on destiny (TL;DR not included)  (Read 1046 times)

It really bugs me when people don't grasp that the word "mind" and the word "brain" mean two different things. I'm glad you do.

But anyway, I personally don't feel like destinies are predetermined. I believe that choices are truly influenced by the experiences we have throughout our life. Really, choice is the only thing that keeps a destiny from being predetermined, including the choices of others.

It really bugs me when people don't grasp that the word "mind" and the word "brain" mean two different things. I'm glad you do.

This is what I'm talking about Ceist. This guy gets it. I like you.

So OP, are you saying that physics in a major, almost inevitably way, predetermine our actions (I know I'm being too reductionist here, but I need a little bit of help)? Pretty interesting thought though.

One day I was taking a Geometry test, and I thought that I was in my Algebra class from last year, lol.

i imagine destiny with multiple directions reality can head in, but as time moves forward, a specific destiny becomes recognizable.
Nope, the course of events is strictly linear.

yeah when you think about it everything is already set out to happen because of cause/effect, but we can't foresee what will happen, so it seems new and random to us.

Sometimes I might have an image in a dream that just flashes for a second, or I do/look at something in the dream. Then, sometime during the day I will just freeze up, realizing I'm looking at that particular image or doing/seeing that thing.
For example, I dream that I'm sitting on a park bench looking at a sign. Afterwards, when I'm awake, I (unintentionally) go to a park, sit on a bench and look at a sign.
It's not typically something like that. Normally, it's something I would never go out of my way to do. But when it happens, it's freaky.

I believe that choices are truly influenced by the experiences we have throughout our life. Really, choice is the only thing that keeps a destiny from being predetermined, including the choices of others.
Our experiences are also based on a combination of how things happen, how we perceive them, and how we respond to them. Circumstances beget all choices. People are just biological components in this.

So OP, are you saying that physics in a major, almost inevitably way, predetermine our actions (I know I'm being too reductionist here, but I need a little bit of help)? Pretty interesting thought though.
Yes, especially when you take physics to determine the results of biology and the environment, and that living things and the environment respond to each other in a determinable way; drop the notion that the complexity of our thoughts and the impact of our collective actions somehow separates us from other animals on this level.

We determine choice, make changes, and influence others, but it was always set up that we would think to do so.


Quote from: Arthur Schopenhauer
Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.
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