What vintage computer does the Ardunio uno compare to with this lcd?

[zefoo]

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What vintage computer does the arduino uno with this lcd compare to?

Here is a list of old computers.

perhaps the IBM PCjr?

maybe the Atari 520ST?

or the Compaq Portable II?

or MAYBE with modern tech the Apple Macintosh Portable?


Which cpu/micro-controller is better?

A 8-bit cpu @ 16 mhz 8-bit modern micro-controller(Atmega328) at 16 mhz or a vintage 16-bit cpu @ 8 mhz? Such as a Motorola 68000 @ 8MHz.

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[Cnaibedoge]

it may not be exactly vintage but i got this really really old amd duron

[Axolotl2]

16-bit CPU at 8MHz.

It can do more instructions than the 8-bit CPU.

[Steve5452]

16-bit CPU at 8MHz.

It can do more instructions than the 8-bit CPU.

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[aludane]

Well it really depends, depending on what instructions are being executed.

Generally I wouldn't compare such CPUs unless you have more information such as how many registers there are in the register file, different mathematical capabilities within the ALU and lots of misc technical stuff relating to decoding and executing instructions and sending out data.

Out of personal preference and knowing CPUs, I would go with the 16-bit CPU. Also are you actually talking about micro-controllers instead of CPUs because that sounds like a micro-controller (which has additional features to consider).

Just looked it up, it's often used in micro-controllers but it's a complex-instruction-set-computing CPU using some sort of obsolete standard regarding architecture style.

[zefoo]

Well it really depends, depending on what instructions are being executed.

Generally I wouldn't compare such CPUs unless you have more information such as how many registers there are in the register file, different mathematical capabilities within the ALU and lots of misc technical stuff relating to decoding and executing instructions and sending out data.

Out of personal preference and knowing CPUs, I would go with the 16-bit CPU. Also are you actually talking about micro-controllers instead of CPUs because that sounds like a micro-controller (which has additional features to consider).

Yes Im talking about the micro controller on the arduino vs an actual vintage 16-bit CPU @ 8 mhz. Im thinking about making my own 8-bit pocket computer and I want to see what it could do if it was in the old computer era.

[aludane]

Yes Im talking about the micro controller on the arduino vs an actual vintage 16-bit CPU @ 8 mhz. Im thinking about making my own 8-bit pocket computer and I want to see what it could do if it was in the old computer era.

wowe

Arduino any day then. the Arduino is a micro-controller and from what I understand of them and has much better support for these sorts of things. Not only that but the lithography/performance/etc of the CPU embedded in the Arduino may be (I'm guessing with this because I don't know either of these ICs) better. I assume the Arduino chip you got is on a PCB.

Generally support for Arduino in the open-source community is really good so I recommend working with that instead of some old CPU. 

[zefoo]

wowe

Arduino any day then. the Arduino is a micro-controller and from what I understand of them and has much better support for these sorts of things. Not only that but the lithography/performance/etc of the CPU embedded in the Arduino may be (I'm guessing with this because I don't know either of these ICs) better. I assume the Arduino chip you got is on a PCB.

Generally support for Arduino in the open-source community is really good so I recommend working with that instead of some old CPU. 

Awesome so what do you think the arduino compares to in the vintage computer world? Im going to be attaching a nice lcd that has a great graphics processing unit compared to old computers that is built in.

[aludane]

Awesome so what do you think the arduino compares to in the vintage computer world? Im going to be attaching a nice lcd that has a great graphics processing unit compared to old computers that is built in.

I'm guessing when I say this but something like this, Zilog Z80, would be simillar to an Atmega328.

In more detail I would compare the two datasheets of both CPU and the micro-controller if you wanted to find similarities.

Atmega328 Datasheet

I can't find a decent datasheet that I could trust on the internet right now for the Zilog Z80 but searching around should come up with something.

[zefoo]

I'm guessing when I say this but something like this, Zilog Z80, would be simillar to an Atmega328.

In more detail I would compare the two datasheets of both CPU and the micro-controller if you wanted to find similarities.

Atmega328 Datasheet

I can't find a decent datasheet that I could trust on the internet right now for the Zilog Z80 but searching around should come up with something.

Sorry i didn't elaborate. But i meant like which computer it compares to with the modern lcd and all. Here is a list of old computers.

[aludane]

Sorry i didn't elaborate. But i meant like which computer it compares to with the modern lcd and all. Here is a list of old computers.

Oh, in which case I'd look through some of these.

Oh and the older models, nothing recent so choose a model such as the HP-75

[zefoo]

Oh, in which case I'd look through some of these.

Oh and the older models, nothing recent so choose a model such as the HP-75

But i want it to preform as well as a desktop computer. so which desktop would you think it preforms like? Look in the 1980's maybe even 1990's era on the website here. Also btw im using this lcd.


perhaps the IBM PCjr?

maybe the Atari 520ST?

or the Compaq Portable II?

or MAYBE with modern tech the Apple Macintosh Portable?

[aludane]

I see what you're trying to come up with.

These computers had operating systems which includes memory management and all that. What you're comparing is a micro-controller board with an LCD screen with a fully fledged computer used back in the days.

Just too different to compare for me. I guess you could build something similar to the computers you listed but I hope you realize the amount of effort and knowledge required is quite substantial to come up with a system such as that.

[zefoo]

I see what you're trying to come up with.

These computers had operating systems which includes memory management and all that. What you're comparing is a micro-controller board with an LCD screen with a fully fledged computer used back in the days.

Just too different to compare for me. I guess you could build something similar to the computers you listed but I hope you realize the amount of effort and knowledge required is quite substantial to come up with a system such as that.

Yes I know and I see what you mean. So lets just say Cpu vs Cpu. Sorry Im asking you so many questions.

The OS I will be making is really simple. It will be a BASIC OS/programming language and I have done my research on how computers work and such.

[zefoo]

What vintage computer does the Arduino uno with this lcd compare to or what is the best computer that the Arduino out preforms (not including the OS of the vintage computer, just hardware wise) with the lcd listed?

Here is a list of old computers.

perhaps the IBM PCjr?

maybe the Atari 520ST?

or the Compaq Portable II?

or MAYBE with modern tech the Apple Macintosh Portable?

And I will be making a BASIC OS for it like apple BASIC. Also if you cant really cmpare it to the computer then just give me the best cpu that the Arduino beats.