Author Topic: Everything (it just keeps getting longer!)  (Read 1122 times)

I am currently in the process of recording and writing my beliefs about everything due to the fact that I don't see any other point living, myself. I didn't spellcheck these so there's not much point in mentioning things arn't spelled correctly, however if you notice something that doesn't make sense grammatically or logically feel free to point it out. I figure you guys get pretty harsh when you think you are smarted than someone and nothing sets you guys off more than potentially philosophical topics about useless stuff. As such I figure this a good first round of testing for this concept and I would like to see what you all think about it.

There will be more subjects of discussion in the future, but in order to get over my writers block I decided just to go extremely general for this first pass.
Please enjoy, unless you don't in which case at least let me know why you didn't. (tl:dr is not a sufficient response, though I do wish I could convey these concepts in a more concise manner.)

**Everything that is was and will be what it would be.**

First let's assume everything in the universe started at a single point. Everything was created and sent on its way. All energy and matter and whatever else there may be went off from this point with specific directions and whatnot. Overtime (this could even have been as little as a fraction of a second) the particles begin to interact with each other. Changing and combining and influencing each other in relatively predictable means. Energy condenses into all the little subatomic particles that we know about and of course whatever we don't know as well, which condense into atoms which combine into molecules and everything begins to form. Stars are born and create even denser matter. Over time this matter accumulates around newly forming stars to create planets. On these planets certain molecules form that being to attract and react to each other in even more stunning and complex ways. Life begins to form. First as tiny molecules and eventually into complex life forms that grow and change and adapt and experience the world. Eventually some of these life forms begin to develop a consciousness, an even more variable and relative existence.
Such is pretty much the most common scientifically accepted theory of how we came to be. This is regardless of the interventions of a deity or the mucking of the possibility of multiverses. This specific linear path of events illustrates a cause and effect as well as the concept of eventuality that everything that would happen is going to happen based on that if the universe is going to go on long enough for a self propagating chemical reaction to occur, life as we know it would form. And if life is allowed to flourish enough, eventually a being will develop a more indirect way of interacting with the environment, through perception and consciousness. These conscious beings will make decisions based on everything they have experienced through life and have the potential to undergo such enormous changes to themselves or present changes to the environment.
This does not necessarily imply no free will on the part of the conscious beings, but it would require that if free will exists, it to exist on an entirely different level. There are things in this universe that we perceive as being random. The movement of electrons may be predicted to fall within certain orbits yet their exact location and when they will be there remains unpredictable. Certain radioactive isotopes would lose mass randomly as their intermolecular bonds break down.  Regardless of the events of surrounding matter, these things would change. As atoms have these electrons randomly moving about, the atoms would retain some of this randomness due to  their interactions with each other to form chemical reactions would be dependent on the location of the electron to create force one direction or another and thus influence the eventual arrangement of matter. All life as we currently know it is made out of atoms that have these random electrons, and thus it can be determined that life would have some random actions associated with it. Furthermore it can be speculated that beings evolved to have electro-chemical interactions dictate their perception and actions as is the case of humans and other animals would thusly be at the whim of the randomness of these particles. The concept of free will can be as such determined to be the randomness of the particles that we are. The universe would thusly have the same free will as us, being all encompassingly made up of these random particles.
To try and explain everything as directly as possible:  Everything was created with a possibly predetermined course that may or may not be affected by the randomness inherent in the creation(based on whether that randomness is accounted for or if all possibilities are also taken into effect). Regardless of this we as being part of the universe are all bound to the experience of the universe, relatively.
More can be said about this subject regarding the deductions we can place on these observations given the purported importance of life, the resultant actions on the universe based on free will as well as the concept of a mulitverse. More still can be said about relativity and how this plays into our existence as the "more advanced" beings we are. These topics will wait for another day however, as I am sure I have overloaded you already and I don't think I can write this all at once. I will attempt to go back and edit this to make it more readable in general through grammar diction and spelling as well as to fill some holes I may have seemed to look over. Other topics will be soon to come hopefully.

**People have potential.**

Up until life started forming most reactions between particles were entirely direct. Energy would bombard and excite an atom and make it glow, a molecule would smash into another and they make some new one. What hadn't happened was the ability for things to interact indirectly. Everything in the world we experience is relative. If we all were in a simulated environment that accurately addresses everything we can perceive, we simply could not know it as our perception is bound to such a reality. Within this reality everything can vary even more from individual to individual. Each person would have their own experiences that lead up to the choices they make regarding a situation. Every person has the power to plant a forest or set it alight, and through free will the causes for such actions can be almost untraceable.  A person who gets especially angry at a sandwich falling out of their hand would do something rash such as the aforementioned forest burning. Does this mean the sandwich caused the fire? What about the matches? They did not light themselves. No it was the person, in all their randomness, who was caused by abstract events and was able to bring together the composatory substance of the matches to induce an inferno. Give him enough time and will, a man could move a mountain.
The universe took a lot of time to create life, and it seems that life is something that would always end up existing due to the randomness of the universe to potentially at one point start the process of life (as well as not spontaneously destroy that process before it has time to take hold). Life would, as a self propagating series of chemical reactions, persist for as long as it has the ability to. Whether that means adapting to travel and gather more nutrients to continue propagation, or to evolve and change until ultimately an "intelligent" being arises. The concept of Darwinism and natural selection has been used in the past to promote ideas of belligerence and apathy towards our fellow life forms. It is ingrained genetically in us to see our own species as being more important somehow than the life around us and thus it is easy for us to abuse it. Furthermore such animalistic tendencies could promote intra-species violence such as racism. What we need to understand is we have long since passed the threshold, neigh, there was never such a threshold what which would place us upon such a significant pedestal. We are still living relatively, within our own bubbles of perception. While we have gained the ability to scientifically deduce the mechanics of our universe we still are no where closer to the harmony with which we begin to understand our overall purpose. What would such a purpose even be? What better is life than death? In the eyes of the universe, a big ball of bouncing particles and energy nothing as such is deducible and thus leads to two points of speculation. A) There isn't one; or B) We have not been able to come to terms with one. This could be a shortfall of our own perception being bound to this universe, or merely our lack of looking in the right location for such an answer. If one looks at the history of the universe though, we seem like a pretty big deal. Self-sustaining chemical reactions that have such a greater impact on the world beyond them than they could realize. If we accept that any one object behaving randomly can through time and resulting reactions have such a profound impact on the overall layout of the universe, then we can most certainly accept that any one individual's interactions with others would have the same ripple effect. This may not even be a deductable ripple however. Everything is relative. One of my favorite (as it is kinda silly) examples is the shadow of a cat.
So there is this dude walking down an ally when he sees something move. This giant deformed shadow of what could with no doubt in his mind be anything but that of a large monster of sorts. The guy turns and runs without looking back as he is just certain this thing is chasing him. Such deductions could make sense, given animals have to avoid being eaten to survive, it is within our instincts to deal with potential predators. Maybe even in addition, this guys relative perception was obscured by having just gotten out of a scary movie. The guy runs home and locks his doors and for the rest of his life lives for sure knowing that there was a monster in that ally that almost ate him and he would pass this story on as an inarguable instance. The monster meanwhile turned out to be a cat holding something funny in its mouth standing over a dropped flashlight or something that caused the shadow to be cast strangely. There wasn't a monster, but everything that the guy does not is relative to the fact that he saw a monster in that ally. Our perception plays a very large role on our "reality".
While through relativity, our experiences interactions are unique to our own identity, we have at least some common ground being people with similar constituting elements and societal aspects such as concepts of morals and whatnot. We can then all potentially be interacted with in a similar manner and it be understood of intention. While morals are societal and relative, they should be understood for what they are. Preestablished deductions that have been proven to allow society to continue in an orderly manner. This is not to say order is any more virtuous than anarchy, but it allows the multitudes to achieve more cohesively. While Darwinists would deduce the individual with the most potential to reproduce would do so and spread his own traits, let's look at this more generally. One set of molecules that is more likely by some means to create another set of similarly functioning molecules (which includes the production function) would do so given the ability. And again, one set of events that is more likely to cause another similar set of events would do so given the ability. At this point what is a person besides their collective experiences relative perception that would cause what they think should happen to happen. A person is not only themselves but the effect they have on the universe.
Any one person has the ability to do so many things. We need to respect this and respect, thusly, each other and even the life that is everything around us. Let's look at it in terms of the whole universe. (random fact, the body changes out nearly all of its mass for new atoms and particles over the course of seven years as cells go through matter we ingest. You are what you eat, quite literally). At some point we will be made out of something else, other particles that were part of something we had interacted with before possibly. Anything you would have done to these particles now "vibrates" in these particles for they will forever be reacted to your previous actions. When they become part of you, you are now affected by your own actions. Furthermore as we all pull from this same pool of matter, we are all one in being part of this universe. Anything you do reverberates into the universe forever. Our actions thusly would have consequence. While I deduce the concept of morality as being nothing more than a situational societal understanding of what "should be" based upon persistent and deduced means of running a society more smoothly, the one thing I can most denounce is to do anything out of hate. While this is an emotion we can feel due to being human, we should understand and work through this feeling as much as possible. When you act out of hate, you are causing this energy and effect to travel through the universe. When you later are part of or are made of the particles you affected by hate, you will have been affected by your own energy and thus you are only hurting yourself. Given the projection that the universe is infinite there will be a point in which you are part of these particles(or the inverse of that to be more accurate) in some sense of identity. The hate we feel for others makes no sense, especially prejudice which deprives the individual of their own identity and free will and forces them into our relative perception of a people.
Each person has the potential to do so much in our universe and we should likely all help each other in achieving whatever deductable goals we can. There is much more to say about this subject due to concepts of morality and society but I shall leave you with one guide line I have so far been able to deduce and will hopefully remember to touch upon and explain later. We all should love each other and the universe around us and act out of this love.

« Last Edit: December 15, 2012, 12:24:58 PM by Ladios »

This is huge. I'll read it later.

you basically just said you were an atheist in 100+ words

you basically just said you were an atheist in 100+ words
I can sympathise with the desire to write down and solidify all your believes.
Even though I haven't read this yet (i will) I can say that I've wanted to do the same thing.

By the way I consider myself Christian. I never said there wasn't a God, I am just explaining the mechanics of the universe as I see them likely to be. The questions about a diety and souls and whatnot is a different topic, but one I will go over later.

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i think that's the commonly held belief among the scientific

what do you mean by everything?  like you want to cover every topic in the world?


i think that's the commonly held belief among the scientific

what do you mean by everything?  like you want to cover every topic in the world?
I couldn't think of a better title. I consider my whole belief to be called Relativisim or relative christianity or something silly like that, but as relativity is scarcely covered in this section, I didn't deem it fitting for now. Other sections I will cover more the concept of Self, Perception, Relativity, Multiverses, Freewill/the soul, and of course Religion and God. The idea is I want to write my ideas of philosophy in the chance they may help someone feel more comfortable about themselves or be motivated to do some relative good in the world, making some groundbreaking technology, creating a conservation movement or building a homeless shelter, who knows?
Thanks for the spell checks btw. This is like a pre-rough-draft.

I couldn't think of a better title. I consider my whole belief to be called Relativisim or relative christianity or something silly like that, but as relativity is scarcely covered in this section, I didn't deem it fitting for now. Other sections I will cover more the concept of Self, Perception, Relativity, Multiverses, Freewill/the soul, and of course Religion and God. The idea is I want to write my ideas of philosophy in the chance they may help someone feel more comfortable about themselves or be motivated to do some relative good in the world, making some groundbreaking technology, creating a conservation movement or building a homeless shelter, who knows?
Thanks for the spell checks btw. This is like a pre-rough-draft.
sounds pretty cool

i look forward to reading them

btw, do you read any philosophy or no?


Added more things. This one talks a bit about life and relative perception as well as our corresponding reactions.

The first few sentences conflict with the theory of the big bang in general from what I gathered out of them.


The first few sentences conflict with the theory of the big bang in general from what I gathered out of them.
Ok let me rephrase, The big bang happened, then all the particles projected out of the resulting reaction did stuff and interacted and rest of everything I said.