Opinion about gun control?

[TheKhoz]

When did I ever say I would own all the property and have all the liberties? You own what you produce and nothing more. You would have the right to minimal government interference and you would be free to use your time doing whatever you pleased so long as your actions were not aggressive to another human being.

But I can claim whatever property I wish to. And if someone says, "No, that's my property!", Then I feel like my right to infinite property is being violated.

No, that's not anarchist thought at all. Anarchy is the abolition of all government and laws. Libertarianism is a small government where individuals are free to express their personal liberties. This does not mean you can go steal your neighbors TV because you like it. That is still a crime. It means that if you want to speak your mind, you can do it without fear of oppression. If you want to smoke weed in the privacy of your house, you can do it. If you want to own a gun for your own protection, you can have it. Learn a bit about a political party before judging it, you would be shocked at how much it makes sense.

Complaining that government is bad is anarchy. He was complaining about how government is so terrible. Also, NOW you represent libertarianism, but before you were not. What are personal liberties? That is YOUR arbitrary line. No one is forced to comply with it. But you aren't going to enforce it, because if anyone enforced their line, you would say forget no and try to shoot them with that RPG you own on "your own" property.

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[Bisjac]

Complaining that government is bad is anarchy

what? no it dosnt lol

anarchy has a single specific definition. and thats not even close to it.

[rockslide26]

But I can claim whatever property I wish to. And if someone says, "No, that's my property!", Then I feel like my right to infinite property is being violated.

Nope, you rightfully own what you produce with your own hands.

[TheKhoz]

what? no it dosnt lol

No, it's not. Sorry, complaining that government, all forms of government, is bad (similarly to how rockslide was speaking) is anarchistic thought. It's not anarchy itself, obviously.

Nope, you rightfully own what you produce with your own hands.

So, you built your house? With tools that you fashioned yourself? I don't think so. Libertarianism will cause us to revert to the stone age. Because you didn't build your computer. You didn't put a speck of help into making this internet, but you use it all the forget you want. Just like I do.

[Trinick!]

Complaining that government is bad is anarchy.

No. That's not true at all.

Also, NOW you represent libertarianism, but before you were not.

I've always been an outpoken libertarian on this forum.

What are personal liberties? That is YOUR arbitrary line. No one is forced to comply with it. But you aren't going to enforce it, because if anyone enforced their line, you would say forget no and try to shoot them with that RPG you own on "your own" property.

That would interfere with someone else's personal liberties, and would thus be a violation of law.

Nope, you rightfully own what you produce with your own hands.

Or purchase or are given.

No, it's not. Sorry, complaining that government, all forms of government, is bad (similarly to how rockslide was speaking) is anarchistic thought. It's not anarchy itself, obviously.

Rockslide admitted to being a libertarian earlier, and since libertarianism is a form of government, your statement is clearly false.

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What I don't understand about libertarianism is how does the government manage any public services? Somebody has to pay to somebody else.

[TheKhoz]

That would interfere with someone else's personal liberties, and would thus be a violation of law.

Personal liberties? What are those?

What I'm saying is, your definition of personal liberties is different from mine. So I will restrict you from doing things that I do not think are personal liberties. And you will uphold the same restrictions on me.

Rockslide admitted to being a libertarian earlier, and since libertarianism is a form of government, your statement is clearly false.

Libertarianism is an idea that could not possibly work. That is to say, nothing in what you have said is defined. But, what if your personal liberties infringe on mine?

[Trinick!]

What I don't understand about libertarianism is how does the government manage any public services? Somebody has to pay to somebody else.

The government doesn't handle public services. Name one personal service that cannot be privately owned.

Personal liberties? What are those?

What I'm saying is, your definition of personal liberties is different from mine. So I will restrict you from doing things that I do not think are personal liberties. And you will uphold the same restrictions on me.

No, that's not true. In this case, personal liberties refer to anything you desire to do that does not stop another human being from doing what they want to do.

Libertarianism is an idea that could not possibly work.

You are entirely wrong.

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So who pays for those services? Corporations aren't going to provide them for free.

[Trinick!]

So who pays for those services? Corporations aren't going to provide them for free.

Neither does the government. See: taxes.

That is to say, nothing in what you have said is defined. But, what if your personal liberties infringe on mine?

Then I am committing a crime.

[TheKhoz]

No, that's not true. In this case, personal liberties refer to anything you desire to do that does not stop another human being from doing what they want to do.

So, if I convince an 8 year old to have love with me, it's fine, because we both want to do it. So who gives a forget if they are only a child, it's fine.

But then you say, the child can't make it's own decisions. Then who the forget does? Their dad? What if their dad is the one raping them?

[rockslide26]

I don't see why I should bother explaining if you don't try to understand.

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Neither does the government. See: taxes.

Yeah, but in this system apparently nobody has to pay taxes, so how are these services provided if no citizens are paying taxes or fees to any 3rd parties?

[Trinick!]

So, if I convince an 8 year old to have love with me, it's fine, because we both want to do it. So who gives a forget if they are only a child, it's fine.

But then you say, the child can't make it's own decisions. Then who the forget does? Their dad? What if their dad is the one raping them?

Traumatizing a child is a violation of their personal liberties.

Yeah, but in this system apparently nobody has to pay taxes, so how are these services provided if no citizens are paying taxes or fees to any 3rd parties?

Who said that people wouldn't pay fees to 3rd parties? Instead of paying taxes you would pay a monthly fee to the company that provides that service.

[rockslide26]

Yeah, but in this system apparently nobody has to pay taxes, so how are these services provided if no citizens are paying taxes or fees to any 3rd parties?

Correction: Citizens aren't forced to pay fees to third parties.